[GNSO-RPM-WG] Re; Updated Proposal re TMCH/Design Marks

Tue Sep 10 17:36:12 UTC 2019

Dear Co-chairs, Staff and WG members, please see below a revised proposal regarding Question #7 (TMCH/Design Marks):

  1.  As per Greg's proposal, where a design mark with words disclaims >>all<< words, it does not enter TMCH.

  1.  As per Greg's proposal, where a design mark with words disclaims >>some but not all words<< it does enters the TMCH.

  1.  Where a design mark with words is permitted into the TMCH, it entitles the mark holder to a Claims Notice, but not a Sunrise priority.

  1.  The Claims Notice would have to specify inter alia, that it is notifying prospective registrants of someone claiming to have rights corresponding to the domain name, but that not in all cases does having a design mark confer rights over the words inside, or something to that effect.

  1.  Design marks consisting of a single letter, e.g. a stylized or graphical "i", whether disclaimed or not, do not go into the TMCH.
This proposal has been circulated amongst some stakeholders for feedback (with mixed results), however I am now sharing it with the entire Working Group.

Zak Muscovitch
General Counsel, ICA

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From: GNSO-RPM-WG <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org> On Behalf Of Zak Muscovitch
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Subject: Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPM Meeting on 04 September 17:00-18:30 UTC

Attached is the redline version. Apologies for only sending it now.

Zak

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From: Lori Schulman <lschulman at inta.org<mailto:lschulman at inta.org>>
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Subject: RE: Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPM Meeting on 04 September 17:00-18:30 UTC

Hi,

Support Phil's suggestion and a post call redline per my earlier message.

Thank you.

Lori S. Schulman
Senior Director, Internet Policy
International Trademark Association (INTA)
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From: Corwin, Philip <pcorwin at verisign.com<mailto:pcorwin at verisign.com>>
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Subject: RE: Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPM Meeting on 04 September 17:00-18:30 UTC

Zak:

As we reviewed all the proposals last week, I would suggest that you focus in your presentation on what changes you and Kathy have made to the original and the rationale for doing so.

Philip

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPM Meeting on 04 September 17:00-18:30 UTC

Lori, I'm trying to get one together, not sure I will be able to unfortunately.

Muscovitch Law P.C.

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Subject: RE: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPM Meeting on 04 September 17:00-18:30 UTC

Hi,

Thank you for this. As this is so close to the call, do you have a redline so we can compare the changes quickly? It would be most helpful to be prepared on a quick notice.

Lori S. Schulman

Senior Director, Internet Policy

International Trademark Association (INTA)

+1-202-704-0408, Skype: lsschulman

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Subject: Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPM Meeting on 04 September 17:00-18:30 UTC

Dear Co-Chairs, Working Group Members, and Staff,

Further to the call last week and further to the below Agenda for today's call, please see the attached updated proposal re: Question #7, from Kathy Kleiman and myself.

You will note therein, that the revised proposal contains some revised language, some revised rationale, and a potential alternative to the existing rule for discussion purposes.

Zak Muscovitch

General Counsel, ICA

Muscovitch Law P.C.

zak at muscovitch.com<mailto:zak at muscovitch.com>

1-866-654-7129

416-924-5084

http://www.trademarks-canada.com/

https://www.muscovitch.com/

https://dnattorney.com/

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Sent: September-03-19 1:02 PM
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Subject: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Agenda for RPM Meeting on 04 September 17:00-18:30 UTC

Dear RPM WG members,

Please find the agenda and materials for the WG meeting tomorrow, Wednesday, 04 September at 17:00-18:30 UTC.

Please note the following actions captured from last week's meeting and sent to the list last week:

Actions:

1. Revision of Existing Proposals: For consideration at the meeting on Wednesday, 04 September, RPM PDP WG members who had previously submitted proposals relating to the Open TMCH Questions (see attached) may offer revised proposals that take into consideration the work completed by the WG since the proposals were originally submitted.
2. New Proposals: For consideration at the meeting on Wednesday, 04 September, RPM PDP WG members may submit new proposals relating to Charter questions 7, 8, and 10.

Please send suggested revisions or new proposals by COB today, 03 September, if at all possible.

Proposed Agenda:

1. Review Agenda and Updates to Statements of Interest
2. Proposals relating to Open TMCH Charter Questions (see attached Summary document. It is the same as the May 2017 version but with formatting for readability and text from relevant TMCH and AGB references):

* Question 7 - Proposals from Kathy Kleiman and Greg Shatan
* Question 8 - Proposals from Paul McGrady, Kathy Kleiman, Jonathan Agmon, and Claudio di Gangi
* If Time Permits: Question 10 - Proposal from Michael Graham

3. AOB

Best Regards,

Mary, Julie, Ariel
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