[ICANN Academy WG] post to list regarding pilot SO/AC Leadership training in Toronto

[Hong Xue]

> So ok, you'd like the group to produce recommendations, guidance and
> proposals and otherwise work together.  That raises further process
> questions of course, but these can be tackled along the way.  How shall we
> take this forward, given the work that's already been done, per Wolf and
> Sandra's messages?
>
What I can remember pretty clear is that when I referred to the
at-large drafted syllabus and suggested to use it as a non-paper for
ground building, I was told that that was for a DIFFERENT program, not
the approved pilot in Toronto. But I'm happy to learn that we can make
suggestions to THIS one in Toronto still.

Hong




> On Jul 6, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Filiz Yilmaz wrote:
>
> Hello Bill,
>
> I need to make this correction/clarification it seems, as I am that "she":
>
> I did not say I would design the curriculum specifically myself at all.
>
> My update in Prague to the ICANN WG was solely that there had been an
> allocation from the FY13 budget for a pilot of an SO/AC Leadership Training
> and Orientation program. I also did say that I am the lead Staff responsible
> of this project's implementation, responding to a specific question as "Who
> will be the project manager?". The budget item is tied to Participation and
> Engagement.
>
> I also said and can re-iterate again here that in my vision I would work
> with this group in the implementation steps if the group is willing to
> produce recommendations, guidance and proposals in regards to implementation
> details such as curriculum, speakers and format of this training program.
>
> So as per the roles, this is my view:
>
> ICANN Academy WG will come up with an agreed proposal containing all sorts
> of main recommendations for the implementation of the pilot in Toronto.
>
> ICANN Staff (me) will implement those within the approved budget. Obviously
> what can be implemented or not for Toronto will be tied to the reserves and
> resources. I think it would be wise to have me involved during your
> discussions so that we can streamline better and I can advise in the
> feasibility of things before you devote more time in them during proposal
> development.
>
> So in my view this is working together.
>
> In regards to your other comment and similar previous comments, Olivier,
> Wolf, Sandra and the At-Large WG know that I have been involved in most of
> their previous discussions on this idea and contributed more than a year now
> too, so I was there as the idea was being developed and helped with making
> recommendations and in pointing out the existing efforts so they did not
> need to be repeated here. So I am no alien to the subject.
>
> You are right, this in fact touches also the outreach discussions and I
> would like to remind everyone that this was already recognized as a
> potential compliment example to the whole Outreach framework that is
> developed by an ICANN Staff Group (lead by Kurt Pritz and that I am part of)
> when it was shared in Dakar. As you may remember we further talked about
> that concept in the Outreach session in Prague on Thursday too.
>
> So ICANN WG can trust that I have strong background about the intentions and
> the goal of the program.
>
> I hope these outline my facilitation already so far and I am willing to
> continue as I outlined above and I do hope ICANN WG sees it fit so we can
> work together and have a successful pilot in Toronto.
>
> Kind regards
> ---
> Filiz Yilmaz
> Sr Dir Participation and Engagement
> ICANN
>
>
> From: William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>
> To: "at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg at icann.org"
> <at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [ICANN Academy WG] post to list regarding pilot SO/AC
> Leadership training in Toronto
>
> Hi
>
> On Jul 6, 2012, at 6:37 AM, Hong Xue wrote:
>
> The staff has stated clearly in Prague that she (they) would
> be responsible for designing the curriculum. Then what can we do?
>
>
> Sorry, I couldn't make the session in Prague.  Could someone elaborate on
> what was said in this regard?
>
> Again, this seems rather similar to the outreach discussion.  It'd be
> helpful if staff here could simply explain how they plan to facilitate the
> participation of the community that promoted these ideas in their
> realization….
>
> Bill
>
>
>
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Beijing Normal University
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