[ICANN Academy WG] post to list regarding pilot SO/AC Leadership training in Toronto

[Filiz Yilmaz]

Hello,

Quick update from my side as well as responses to few recent posts:

At this point I am trying to get a sense of what we can fit in the approved budget, 40000$.
I am currently in internal investigation mood with the relevant teams at ICANN.

This will help us to see how many days are feasible for how many attendees (trainees + trainers) for which activities.
Once I have this I think it will be much easier for all of us to talk about a timeline.

Having said that, I do not see any reason not to start a conversation in this mailing list regarding which broad topics should be part of the program already, which then can be mapped to a more detailed curriculum in time. I do not think we need to wait for a timeline to start this conversation here already. To priotorize such a broad topics lists will be wise too, so that then we can easily fit what is mandatory and essential as opposed to what is preferable once we have to fit all things in the budget.

Regarding other points about speakers, my initial cautious note would be having a balance between trainees and speakers. The program's priority should be for trainees. Note that all costs linked to trainees and trainers will be coming from the same pot, assuming the training program will not take place during the ICANN meeting week but before the meeting starts, in addition to all other costs on logistics, materials etc .

Regards

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Filiz Yilmaz
Sr Dir Participation and Engagement
ICANN


From: sandra hoferichter <info at hoferichter.eu<mailto:info at hoferichter.eu>>
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Subject: Re: [ICANN Academy WG] post to list regarding pilot SO/AC Leadership training in Toronto

Dear all,

thank you Filiz, to reiterate the work of this group will feed into the implementation. From my side I like to underline again, that the collaboration with staff, and in particular with Filiz, has been outstanding during the last year. Without this contribution we would not have come that far.

I am convinced many of the WG members have a strong interest to produce recommendations, guidance and proposals on the curriculum, speakers and format of this training program. Coming back on what has been said by Rumy Kanis, time is very short and the work on the content needs to start soon.

Let me suggest that  time line would help to organise the collaboration between staff and WG during the implementation process. This timeline should define which decision must be taken until when (from staff side) and which input is needed by then (from the community side). This helps the WG to move forward and avoids “discussion into the blue”. For instance, to agree on a curriculum it is critical to know how many days the pilot will run. It makes a big difference in terms of content and methodology if it is a 1, 2 or 3 day programme. The curriculum proposed by At-large should be the basis to start the discussion. (see: https://community.icann.org/display/Improve/At-Large+ICANN+Academy+Curriculum ).

May I ask Filiz to set up such a timeline? I am willing to help in any case if wished.

Best Sandra


Von: at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> [mailto:at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] Im Auftrag von Filiz Yilmaz
Gesendet: Freitag, 6. Juli 2012 11:10
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Betreff: Re: [ICANN Academy WG] post to list regarding pilot SO/AC Leadership training in Toronto

Hi Bill,

From: William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch<mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>>
To: Filiz Yilmaz <filiz.yilmaz at icann.org<mailto:filiz.yilmaz at icann.org>>
Cc: "at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg at icann.org<mailto:at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg at icann.org>" <at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg at icann.org<mailto:at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg at icann.org>>
Subject: Re: [ICANN Academy WG] post to list regarding pilot SO/AC Leadership training in Toronto

Hi Filiz

This is helpful, and of course I know you're no alien to the discussion.  I just thought it'd be better to hear from staff what your concept is rather than leaving community members to speculate about it out loud, hence my question.

So ok, you'd like the group to produce recommendations, guidance and proposals and otherwise work together.  That raises further process questions of course, but these can be tackled along the way.  How shall we take this forward, given the work that's already been done, per Wolf and Sandra's messages?

I assume first step would be to get consensus on that work that is already been done. I do not have the details of that work, however, it would be useful to see it and check if there is consensus on it so we take it form there, yes.


And per the Prague discussion led by Kurt, maybe we could set up a parallel group and process for the broader outreach bit?


The discussion led by Kurt is open for all SOs/ACs/SGs focusing on their specific outreach efforts.
The communication is channeled though leadership of these groups.

Regards,
Filiz




Cheers,

Bill

On Jul 6, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Filiz Yilmaz wrote:


Hello Bill,

I need to make this correction/clarification it seems, as I am that "she":

I did not say I would design the curriculum specifically myself at all.

My update in Prague to the ICANN WG was solely that there had been an allocation from the FY13 budget for a pilot of an SO/AC Leadership Training and Orientation program. I also did say that I am the lead Staff responsible of this project's implementation, responding to a specific question as "Who will be the project manager?". The budget item is tied to Participation and Engagement.

I also said and can re-iterate again here that in my vision I would work with this group in the implementation steps if the group is willing to produce recommendations, guidance and proposals in regards to implementation details such as curriculum, speakers and format of this training program.

So as per the roles, this is my view:

ICANN Academy WG will come up with an agreed proposal containing all sorts of main recommendations for the implementation of the pilot in Toronto.

ICANN Staff (me) will implement those within the approved budget. Obviously what can be implemented or not for Toronto will be tied to the reserves and resources. I think it would be wise to have me involved during your discussions so that we can streamline better and I can advise in the feasibility of things before you devote more time in them during proposal development.

So in my view this is working together.

In regards to your other comment and similar previous comments, Olivier, Wolf, Sandra and the At-Large WG know that I have been involved in most of their previous discussions on this idea and contributed more than a year now too, so I was there as the idea was being developed and helped with making recommendations and in pointing out the existing efforts so they did not need to be repeated here. So I am no alien to the subject.

You are right, this in fact touches also the outreach discussions and I would like to remind everyone that this was already recognized as a potential compliment example to the whole Outreach framework that is developed by an ICANN Staff Group (lead by Kurt Pritz and that I am part of) when it was shared in Dakar. As you may remember we further talked about that concept in the Outreach session in Prague on Thursday too.

So ICANN WG can trust that I have strong background about the intentions and the goal of the program.

I hope these outline my facilitation already so far and I am willing to continue as I outlined above and I do hope ICANN WG sees it fit so we can work together and have a successful pilot in Toronto.

Kind regards
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Filiz Yilmaz
Sr Dir Participation and Engagement
ICANN


From: William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch<mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>>
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Subject: Re: [ICANN Academy WG] post to list regarding pilot SO/AC Leadership training in Toronto

Hi

On Jul 6, 2012, at 6:37 AM, Hong Xue wrote:


The staff has stated clearly in Prague that she (they) would
be responsible for designing the curriculum. Then what can we do?

Sorry, I couldn't make the session in Prague.  Could someone elaborate on what was said in this regard?

Again, this seems rather similar to the outreach discussion.  It'd be helpful if staff here could simply explain how they plan to facilitate the participation of the community that promoted these ideas in their realization….

Bill

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