[ICANN Academy WG] post to list regarding pilot SO/AC Leadership training in Toronto

Fri Jul 6 10:37:07 UTC 2012

Dear all,

thank you Filiz, to reiterate the work of this group will feed into the
implementation. From my side I like to underline again, that the
collaboration with staff, and in particular with Filiz, has been outstanding
during the last year. Without this contribution we would not have come that
far.

I am convinced many of the WG members have a strong interest to produce
recommendations, guidance and proposals on the curriculum, speakers and
format of this training program. Coming back on what has been said by Rumy
Kanis, time is very short and the work on the content needs to start soon.

Let me suggest that  time line would help to organise the collaboration
between staff and WG during the implementation process. This timeline should
define which decision must be taken until when (from staff side) and which
input is needed by then (from the community side). This helps the WG to move
forward and avoids "discussion into the blue". For instance, to agree on a
curriculum it is critical to know how many days the pilot will run. It makes
a big difference in terms of content and methodology if it is a 1, 2 or 3
day programme. The curriculum proposed by At-large should be the basis to
start the discussion. (see:
https://community.icann.org/display/Improve/At-Large+ICANN+Academy+Curriculu
m ).

May I ask Filiz to set up such a timeline? I am willing to help in any case
if wished.

Best Sandra

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Auftrag von Filiz Yilmaz
Gesendet: Freitag, 6. Juli 2012 11:10
An: William Drake
Cc: at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg at icann.org
Betreff: Re: [ICANN Academy WG] post to list regarding pilot SO/AC
Leadership training in Toronto

Hi Bill,

From: William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>
To: Filiz Yilmaz <filiz.yilmaz at icann.org>
Cc: "at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg at icann.org"
<at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [ICANN Academy WG] post to list regarding pilot SO/AC
Leadership training in Toronto

Hi Filiz 

This is helpful, and of course I know you're no alien to the discussion.  I
just thought it'd be better to hear from staff what your concept is rather
than leaving community members to speculate about it out loud, hence my
question.

So ok, you'd like the group to produce recommendations, guidance and
proposals and otherwise work together.  That raises further process
questions of course, but these can be tackled along the way.  How shall we
take this forward, given the work that's already been done, per Wolf and
Sandra's messages?

I assume first step would be to get consensus on that work that is already
been done. I do not have the details of that work, however, it would be
useful to see it and check if there is consensus on it so we take it form
there, yes. 

And per the Prague discussion led by Kurt, maybe we could set up a parallel
group and process for the broader outreach bit?

The discussion led by Kurt is open for all SOs/ACs/SGs focusing on their
specific outreach efforts. 

The communication is channeled though leadership of these groups.

Regards,

Filiz

Cheers,

Bill

On Jul 6, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Filiz Yilmaz wrote:

Hello Bill,

I need to make this correction/clarification it seems, as I am that "she":

I did not say I would design the curriculum specifically myself at all. 

My update in Prague to the ICANN WG was solely that there had been an
allocation from the FY13 budget for a pilot of an SO/AC Leadership Training
and Orientation program. I also did say that I am the lead Staff responsible
of this project's implementation, responding to a specific question as "Who
will be the project manager?". The budget item is tied to Participation and
Engagement.

I also said and can re-iterate again here that in my vision I would work
with this group in the implementation steps if the group is willing to
produce recommendations, guidance and proposals in regards to implementation
details such as curriculum, speakers and format of this training program. 

So as per the roles, this is my view:

ICANN Academy WG will come up with an agreed proposal containing all sorts
of main recommendations for the implementation of the pilot in Toronto. 

ICANN Staff (me) will implement those within the approved budget. Obviously
what can be implemented or not for Toronto will be tied to the reserves and
resources. I think it would be wise to have me involved during your
discussions so that we can streamline better and I can advise in the
feasibility of things before you devote more time in them during proposal
development. 

So in my view this is working together.

In regards to your other comment and similar previous comments, Olivier,
Wolf, Sandra and the At-Large WG know that I have been involved in most of
their previous discussions on this idea and contributed more than a year now
too, so I was there as the idea was being developed and helped with making
recommendations and in pointing out the existing efforts so they did not
need to be repeated here. So I am no alien to the subject. 

You are right, this in fact touches also the outreach discussions and I
would like to remind everyone that this was already recognized as a
potential compliment example to the whole Outreach framework that is
developed by an ICANN Staff Group (lead by Kurt Pritz and that I am part of)
when it was shared in Dakar. As you may remember we further talked about
that concept in the Outreach session in Prague on Thursday too. 

So ICANN WG can trust that I have strong background about the intentions and
the goal of the program.

I hope these outline my facilitation already so far and I am willing to
continue as I outlined above and I do hope ICANN WG sees it fit so we can
work together and have a successful pilot in Toronto. 

Kind regards

---

Filiz Yilmaz

Sr Dir Participation and Engagement

ICANN

From: William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>
To: "at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg at icann.org"
<at-large-icann-academy-ad-hoc-wg at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [ICANN Academy WG] post to list regarding pilot SO/AC
Leadership training in Toronto

Hi

On Jul 6, 2012, at 6:37 AM, Hong Xue wrote:

The staff has stated clearly in Prague that she (they) would
be responsible for designing the curriculum. Then what can we do? 

Sorry, I couldn't make the session in Prague.  Could someone elaborate on
what was said in this regard?  

Again, this seems rather similar to the outreach discussion.  It'd be
helpful if staff here could simply explain how they plan to facilitate the
participation of the community that promoted these ideas in their
realization..

Bill

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