[Internal-cg] charter version to go out on the web

Manal Ismail manal at tra.gov.eg
Sun Jul 20 20:47:10 UTC 2014

Thanks Adiel and thanks Jari and Joseph for your responses ..

Although I don't think the minutes serve as an alternative yet I take
your points on lasting definitions and timeless issues ..

I also see that 'rough consensus' is already mentioned under bullet
(iii) ..

So I'm also fine with not adding the below ..


Kind Regards



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I would agree that we are best only placing in the charter more timeless
issues.  All these points fall within self-organization.  Beyond that I
think that minutes are for public reference and there will be a summary
of the meeting, which may be the more appropriate place for details..


On 7/20/2014 7:43 AM, Jari Arkko wrote:

	Manal, Adiel,
	Thanks for your careful review and suggestions.
	The draft charter has been posted to the web yesterday. We
agreed to approve the charter in two weeks, which gives us an
opportunity to make changes if needed.
	My personal opinion is that we should be careful in selecting
what changes are to be put in the charter and what might actually be
separate items. If we add something, it should be a lasting definition -
the chairs and their number for instance might be a separate note. A
note now that indicates that we've selected Alissa as the interim
chair... another note later with the permanent chairs... Also, if we are
going to add more substance to the definition of rough consensus, maybe
a reference to RFC 7282 might be a more complete way of doing that.
(However, I am a bit wary of entering a lengthy discussion now about the
decision process, in case there are debates about the exact definition.)

	On 20 Jul 2014, at 07:23, Adiel Akplogan (Android)
<adiel at afrinic.net> <mailto:adiel at afrinic.net>  wrote:

		Thank you Manal, I support the addition of these 3
points. Someone on our regional discussion list has also raised some of
		- a.
		On July 20, 2014 9:54:29 AM GMT+00:00, Manal Ismail
<manal at tra.gov.eg> <mailto:manal at tra.gov.eg>  wrote:

			Appreciate re-iterating the deadline for
commenting on the charter, if
			still possible .. Apologies to have overlooked
that ..
			If agreed, I suggest adding a couple of
sentences on how the ICG
			to work, in terms of its structure (chair,
co-chairs, ...) and its
			approach to resolve issues (in line with what
was sent to the GAC
			.. i.e. something along the following lines:
			"... The ICG will select [a chair and 2
co-chairs / 3 co-chairs/ or
			whatever was agreed, as I have missed this] from
its members.
			Additionally, in performing its narrow role of
coordination, the group
			will operate by rough consensus judged more by
the merit of objections
			rather than the number of them. ..."
			Kind Regards
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on the web
			This is a clean version of the final charter
(and with the right
			number). Once the statement goes out, it needs
to have a pointer to
			charter, so the charter also needs to be up on
the web somewhere.
			You guys know what to do about that...
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