[Internal-cg] Minor issue with timeline language

[Subrenat, Jean-Jacques]

As stated in a previous email, I suggest once again that we add that the content will not be modified by ICANN or any other entity. Also, the addition proposed by Daniel (ICG sending the plan to NTIA both directly and through ICANN) should be retained.

Thus, 
"Following on NTIA's request, and consistent with procurement rules within ICANN, the ICG shall submit its Transition Plan to the NTIA directly, as well as formally through ICANN. The content of the plan shall in no way be altered, redacted or modified by ICANN as the designated channel of transmission."

Thanks,
Jean-Jacques.




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De: "WUKnoben" <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>
À: "Kavouss Arasteh" <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>, "Daniel Karrenberg" <daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net>
Cc: internal-cg at icann.org
Envoyé: Samedi 11 Octobre 2014 09:18:59
Objet: Re: [Internal-cg] Minor issue with timeline language





I agree here. 

Perhaps a reference in our submission/transmission whatsoever to NTIA’s request maybe helpful: 

“Following the NTIA request in consistence with procurement rules as well as practical matter, the ICG submits - formally through ICANN - the transition proposal to NTIA.” 


Best regards 

Wolf-Ulrich 






From: Kavouss Arasteh 
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 6:09 PM 
To: Daniel Karrenberg 
Cc: internal-cg at icann.org 
Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Minor issue with timeline language 



Dear All, 
For me does not matter whether ICG transmit to NTIA,or 
ICANN transmit , without any edit ,whatsoever, to NTIA,.or 
ICG transmit to NTIA with a copy to ICANN,or 
ICG transmit to NTIA and ICANN simultaneously ( not coped to ICANN but transmittal to ICANN) 
The important issue is ICANN should not touch, edit, comment on the final Report 
Kavouss 



2014-10-10 14:57 GMT+02:00 Daniel Karrenberg < daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net > : 


publish & transmit to ntia & transmit to icann. these days one cannot any longer distinguish between orignial and copy. ;-) 

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> On 10.10.2014, at 13:13, joseph alhadeff < joseph.alhadeff at oracle.com > wrote: 
> 
> It would seem that if we publish the proposal just after transmission to ICANN and copy NTIA on that missive that we have insured that no one can misunderstand what we proposed. 
>> On 10/10/2014 6:44 AM, Daniel Karrenberg wrote: 
>> Jean-Jacques, 
>> 
>> Je suggère que nous allons faire notre travail, sans préjudice de ce que autres vont faire avec le résultat. Nous le faisons d'une manière transparente et à ce que tout le monde peut prendre acte du résultat. Une fois que nous avons fait notre travail nous avons terminé et il sera pour les autres à faire leur choix. Il serait vain pour nous de prévoir des règles sur la façon dont ce qui se passera lorsque nous aurons terminé. 
>> 
>> Amicalement 
>> 
>> Daniel 
>> 
>> --------- 
>> 
>> rough translation: 
>> 
>> 
>> I suggest we do our job without prejudice about what others will do with it. We do it in a transparent manner and such that everyone can take note of the result. Once we have done our job we are finished and it will be for others to make their choices. It would be futile and therfore unwise for us to stipulate rules on how what will happen after we are finished. 
>> 
>> Read: ICANN will be judged by and suffer the consequences of what they do with the final proposal. 
>> 
>> Read also: we will be judged by our (futile) debates and actions, 
>> 
>> Daniel 
>> 
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