[Internal-cg] Fwd: [NRO-IANAXFER] Next steps?

Daniel Karrenberg daniel.karrenberg at ripe.net
Tue Mar 3 11:51:46 UTC 2015


Kavouss,

a good summary of RIR accountability across all regions is at
https://www.nro.net/about-the-nro/rir-governance-matrix
This is looks pretty clear to me. What is it in particular that is 
unclear to you here?

Daniel

On 1.03.15 10:08 , Kavouss Arasteh wrote:
> Step 2 ,ICG Assessement of Cummunity proposals
> Dear Vice chair,
> May you please ask Jari and Alan Barretor Paul Wilson to provide the
> foloowings;
> A COMPARATIVE Table indicating the prcess of accountability currently in
> force and implemented and those which will be required after Transitiion.
> It would be useful to have that comparative Table enabling ICG Members
> to better undersatnd how the accountability of Protocol Parameter and
> Numbers are affected by Transition.
> The reports of these two communities are difficult to make such a
> comparision.
> Without that I will have serious difficulties to comment on the
> exacteness and appropriateness of the content of these two comminities
> on accountability before and after transition.
> By the way, Jari promised to provide a graphic Diagram regarding
> internal accountability being carried out by IETF
> mOREOVER, aLAN bARRET / Paul Wilson ,are respectfully requested to
> provide similar graphic Diagram about the accountability currently in
> force in RIRs ,in particular  that RIRs have a more decentralized
> process of five regional communities and the overall accountabilities of
> the entire  Rir s are not clear
> Rergards
> KAVOUSS
>
> 2015-02-24 22:36 GMT+01:00 Alissa Cooper <alissa at cooperw.in
> <mailto:alissa at cooperw.in>>:
>
>
>     On Feb 24, 2015, at 1:09 PM, WUKnoben
>     <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de
>     <mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>> wrote:
>
>>     Thanks Alissa,
>>     here I understand Izumi describing the responsibilities of CRISP
>>     vs RIRs.
>
>     Yes, and also the important note about them awaiting the conclusion
>     of our Step 2 assessment.
>
>     Alissa
>
>>     Depending on the level of implementation details needed for the
>>     proposal further action may be required (e.g. draft charter of the
>>     Review Committee).
>>
>>     Looking forward to here you later
>>
>>     Wolf-Ulrich
>>
>>     *From:* Alissa Cooper <mailto:alissa at cooperw.in>
>>     *Sent:* Tuesday, February 24, 2015 9:44 PM
>>     *To:* ICG <mailto:internal-cg at icann.org>
>>     *Subject:* [Internal-cg] Fwd: [NRO-IANAXFER] Next steps?
>>     This is relevant to some of the questions Wolf-Ulrich has raised
>>     about implementation, so I’m forwarding it.
>>     Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>>     *From: *Izumi Okutani <izumi at nic.ad.jp <mailto:izumi at nic.ad.jp>>
>>>     *Subject: **Re: [NRO-IANAXFER] Next steps?*
>>>     *Date: *January 26, 2015 at 6:12:27 PM PST
>>>     *To: *Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com
>>>     <mailto:seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>>
>>>     *Cc: *"ianaxfer at nro.net <mailto:ianaxfer at nro.net>"
>>>     <ianaxfer at nro.net <mailto:ianaxfer at nro.net>>
>>>     Hello Seun and colleagues on the IANAXFER list,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     Thank you once again Seun for your question about the next steps.
>>>     I think this is a useful question for others in the community as
>>>     well.
>>>
>>>     As you are aware, our proposal to the ICG describes high level
>>>     principles about the Review Committee and the SLA including "IANA
>>>     Service Level Agreement Principles" in the proposal, so RIRs will
>>>     consider implementation based on this guidance.
>>>
>>>     Our role as the CRISP team is to provide guidance to the RIRs in
>>>     the implementation of the proposal, and the details and process of
>>>     implementation of the proposal is the responsibility of the RIRs. The
>>>     charter of the review committee and actual contract text are part of
>>>     implementation of the proposal which is the responsibility of the
>>>     RIRs.
>>>
>>>     Having said this, the CRISP Team believes it is important for the
>>>     community to have clear visibility that RIRs acknowledges this
>>>     proposal
>>>     which references actions by them.
>>>
>>>     Therefore, after Step2 of the ICG's latest timeline, when the
>>>     proposals
>>>     by all three operational communities are consolidated by the ICG, the
>>>     CRISP Team plans to formally inform the executives of the RIRs
>>>     about the
>>>     proposal submitted to the ICG which references actions by the RIRs.
>>>
>>>     https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/icg-process-timeline-07jan15-en.pdf
>>>
>>>     We expect that there will be formal acknowledgement from the five
>>>     RIRs
>>>     about this, so it is clear to the community that the RIRs will
>>>     take the
>>>     appropriate steps to implement the proposal from the Number Resources
>>>     community. We trust each RIR will consult with their respective
>>>     communities as needed in preparing the SLA, and the Review
>>>     Committee is
>>>     to be established in an open and bottom-up manner, as we have
>>>     described
>>>     in the proposal.
>>>
>>>     I hope this clarifies the role of the CRISP team and RIRs in
>>>     future steps.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     Regards,
>>>     Izumi Okutani
>>>     The CRISP Team
>>>
>>>     On 2015/01/22 23:45, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
>>>>     Great thanks for the first level clarification Izumi.
>>>>
>>>>     Cheers!
>>>>
>>>>     On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 6:06 AM, Izumi Okutani <izumi at nic.ad.jp
>>>>     <mailto:izumi at nic.ad.jp>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>     Hello Seun,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     Just from what I can answer for now,
>>>>>
>>>>>>>     - SLA requirements
>>>>>
>>>>>     "IANA Service Level Agreement Principles" are described in Section
>>>>>     III.A.3 of our proposal, as you are probably aware. This lists
>>>>>     principles and elements to be included in the SLA.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Both of the processes listed below will be lead by the RIRs and
>>>>>     not the
>>>>>     CRISP Team. I trust the RIRs will start the process, so that we
>>>>>     have
>>>>>     these them ready before the transition.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>     - Charter of review committee
>>>>>>>     - Contract actual text
>>>>>
>>>>>     I need to double check if there is anything more we can say at this
>>>>>     stage as the CRISP Team - Thanks for your question and patience!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     Regards,
>>>>>     Izumi
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 2015/01/22 13:29, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
>>>>>>     Hello Izumi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     You may have missed this mail, could you/or any crisp team
>>>>>>     kindly provide
>>>>>>     update?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Just to clarify (in line of recent development), not all the 3
>>>>>>     items are
>>>>>>     expected to be developed by this WG but will be good to know
>>>>>>     when those
>>>>>>     processes will start.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     sent from Google nexus 4
>>>>>>     kindly excuse brevity and typos.
>>>>>>     On 21 Jan 2015 09:37, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com
>>>>>>     <mailto:seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Hello Izumi, CRISP team
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Thanks again to you and the entire team. I just want to ask
>>>>>>>     about what
>>>>>     the
>>>>>>>     next line of action will be? i.e are we to wait until the ICG
>>>>>>>     release
>>>>>     their
>>>>>>>     final proposal? or while we wait on ICG, we also start the
>>>>>>>     drafting
>>>>>     process
>>>>>>>     for the following:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     - Charter of review committee
>>>>>>>     - SLA requirements
>>>>>>>     - Contract actual text
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Thanks as i look forward to your response
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     --
>>>>>>>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     *Seun Ojedeji,Federal University Oye-Ekitiweb:
>>>>>>>     http://www.fuoye.edu.ng <http://www.fuoye.edu.ng/>
>>>>>>>     <http://www.fuoye.edu.ng <http://www.fuoye.edu.ng/>> Mobile:
>>>>>     +2348035233535 <tel:%2B2348035233535>**alt
>>>>>>>     email: <http://goog_1872880453
>>>>>>>     <http://goog_1872880453/>>seun.ojedeji at fuoye.edu.ng
>>>>>>>     <mailto:seun.ojedeji at fuoye.edu.ng>
>>>>>>>     <seun.ojedeji at fuoye.edu.ng <mailto:seun.ojedeji at fuoye.edu.ng>>*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     The key to understanding is humility - my view !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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