[itipanel] another "namecoin" mention

[Geoff Huston]

What particular aspect of the UUCP network are you referring to here Elise?

If I was to draw some parallel with crowd sourcing from the naming systems that were in use back then, I'd relate this to the usenet news newsgroup naming system, which appears to operate under a mechanism of some form of crowd-based assent (but I also recall that if you scratched the surface of this particular supposed anarchy you found lurking underneath a cabal of folk who exercised actual control of the usenet name system. Maybe that's another general aspect of such supposed cword-based systems as well.)



  Geoff


On 16 Dec 2013, at 5:09 am, Elise Gerich <elise.gerich at icann.org> wrote:

> Perhaps this concept is what Paul Mockapetris was referring to in his
> closing comments in Buenos Aires.  He mentioned research into a more
> distributed DNS.  "Namecoin" seems to promote that concept. Is it sort of
> like the next iteration of the UUCP network of old?
> 
> -- Elise
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jari Arkko <jari.arkko at piuha.net>
> Date: Sunday, December 15, 2013 3:30 AM
> To: Paul Vixie <vixie at fsi.io>
> Cc: "itipanel at icann.org" <itipanel at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [itipanel] another "namecoin" mention
> 
>> That's interesting. I keep hearing about efforts in the DNS and bitcoins
>> spaceŠ including some business interest (though not for root).
>> 
>> Bitcoin + something else is a cool theme right now. It will be
>> interesting to see how these play out. Some of it is just marketing.
>> 
>> Jari
>> 
>> On Dec 14, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Paul Vixie <vixie at fsi.io> wrote:
>> 
>>> apparently, the centralized nature of DNS is not universally well loved.
>>> 
>>>> Another ambitious project, Namecoin, is a P2P system almost identical
>>>> to Bitcoin. But instead of currency, it functions as a decentralized
>>>> replacement for the Internet¹s Domain Name System. The D.N.S. is the
>>>> essential ³phone book² that translates a Web site¹s typed address
>>>> (www.newyorker.com) to the corresponding computer¹s numerical I.P.
>>>> address (192.168.1.1). The directory is decentralized by design, but
>>>> it still has central points of authority: domain registrars, which
>>>> buy and lease Web addresses to site owners, and the U.S.-based
>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, or I.C.A.N.N.,
>>>> which controls the distribution of domains.
>>>> 
>>>> The infrastructure does allow for large-scale takedowns, like in
>>>> 2010, when the Department of Justice tried to seize ten domains it
>>>> believed to be hosting child pornography, but accidentally took down
>>>> eighty-four thousand innocent Web sites in the process. Instead of
>>>> centralized registrars, Namecoin uses cryptographic tokens similar to
>>>> bitcoins to authenticate ownership of ³.bit² domains. In theory,
>>>> these domain names can¹t be hijacked by criminals or blocked by
>>>> governments; no one except the owner can surrender them.
>>> 
>>> see:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/12/the-mission-to-dec
>>> entralize-the-internet.html
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Paul Vixie
>>> Farsight Security
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