[Latingp] FW: IP response on Latin Repertoire 20180525

[Meikal Mumin]

 Dear Mirjana,

dear colleagues,

I reviewed the evidence on the use of Bavarian. I had not look at which
characters are used within those publications. 0115 does not occur in those
sources and from what I read on the Bavarian wikipedia no standard has
emerged and there is a tendency to use the German orthographic repertoire.
So my analysis is that Bavarian is used - also on the internet - but that
any additional signs are only used for special purposes, such as scientific
transliteration. I also was unable to find any substantial evidence for
other language's use, so I would suggest removing 0115.


Best,

Meikal


On 16. Aug 2018 at 19:45, Mirjana Tasić <Mirjana.Tasic at rnids.rs> wrote:


Dear Meikal,



Here are the links you provided for Bavarian



“Anyhow breve occurs in Bavarian, and there are samples online, such as
special editions of newspapers in local varieties:

http://www.aichacher-zeitung.de/vorort/dialektwoche/

https://www.tz.de/thema/tz-auf-bairisch-ere108588/ “



Further on you can find your e-mail with responses to IP comments.



Regards Mirjana







*From: *Latin GP <latingp-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Meikal Mumin <
meikal.mumin at uni-koeln.de>
*Date: *Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 14:13
*To: *Michael Bauland <michael.bauland at knipp.de>
*Cc: *Latin GP <latingp at icann.org>
*Subject: *Re: [Latingp] IP response on Latin Repertoire 20180525



Dear colleagues,



I agree with Michael's suggestion to remove EGIDS5 evidence, where there is
other evidence. Where it is the only source for a code point we should
provide specific evidence and sources for contemporary usage.



I also added numerous comments to the two documents - I would have done it
on an online version preferably, but to avoid version conflicts I added
comments to the word files. Several comments of mine contain suggested
action items. On the whole, IP's review leaves me with the impression, that
we have to work again on the repertoire. Particularly the additional
evidence required for African languages will require quite a bit of work,
and it is unclear to me why - as a general rule - IP seems to have higher
demands towards the supporting evidence for African languages versus other
languages.



Best,



Meikal



On 26 June 2018 at 22:02, Michael Bauland <michael.bauland at knipp.de> wrote:

Hi all,

I am a bit confused by the choice of comments from the IP regarding EGIDS 5
languages:
* In some occasions (e.g., 0115, Bavarian (5)) they state that the
languages should be removed from the refernce (sometimes with the result of
eliminating the whole character)
* In some occasions (e.g., 015D, Tswa (5)) they require additional comments
for those languages.
* In some occasions (e.g., 1E5B, Kabyle (5)) the languages are accepted
without complaint from IP.

I guess, according to our statement "Languages with EGIDS 5 may be included
in special cases where there is additional evidence that it is in
widespread use" we should alter our table as follows:
* remove EGIDS 5 languages, if other at least two other references are
available wiht higher score
* keep EGIDS 5 languages, if there is one or no other reference available
* add a comment to prove its widespread use for all remaining EGIDS 5
langauges

Cheers,

Michael


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