[Latingp] Sharp S and Allocatable vs Blocked

Tan Tanaka, Dennis dtantanaka at verisign.com
Fri Sep 6 18:44:58 UTC 2019

Hi Michael,

Not sure which part are you disagreeing with: 1) main driver for analysis is technical; or 2) linguistic argument not relevant; or both?

Anyway, the key message I was trying to make is that the analysis on sharp S is on technical grounds. That the technical issue originated because of linguistics conventions getting into protocol, sure. But absent of the technical issues we would not be exploring this case, would we?


On 9/6/19, 2:47 AM, "Latingp on behalf of Michael Bauland" <latingp-bounces at icann.org on behalf of Michael.Bauland at knipp.de> wrote:

    Hi Dennis,
    On 05.09.2019 21:02, Tan Tanaka, Dennis via Latingp wrote:
    > The primary reason we are considering this case is due to the IDNA
    > issue. And the proposed allocatable solution is to minimize the
    > misconnection issue that arises with certain browsers. The linguistic
    > argument is a moot point (in my opinion) greatly in part because it is
    > not a clear cut rule (i.e. swapping sharp s with “ss”, or vice versa,
    > can alter the meaning of a word) and it can be argued that the target
    > market of sharp S (Germany) has been conditioned (by their country code
    > registry operator) that domain names using sharp s and “ss” are different.
    I have to disagree here for two reasons:
    1. Although Germany is the main market (due to the large population) we
    must not forget Austria and Switzerland (and there are also border
    regions in neighbouring countries where German is the mother tongue).
    Those countries also speak the same language (well, more or less at
    least). At least for Swiss people there is no real difference between ß
    and ss as they spell all their words with ss instead of ß ... while at
    the same time accepting ß when reading as a totally valid spelling.
    2. Even though Denic (.de registry) decided to make ß and ss different,
    it's hardly the case that the people in Germany are "conditioned" in any
    way. From my experience (I haven't read any official studies related to
    this topic) I would say that more than half of the people aren't even
    aware that they can use ß in domain names.
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