[OFB-WG] ALAC Statement on Third Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT3) Final Report
Dave Kissoondoyal
dave at igf-mu.org
Thu Jul 30 13:56:59 UTC 2020
I am also OK with editorial changes
Kind regards
Dave
On 30/07/2020 17:37, Marita Moll wrote:
>
> I am also okay with the editorial comments suggested although I have
> already voted.
>
> Marita
>
> On 7/30/2020 4:53 AM, Justine Chew wrote:
>> I too have found myself in the situation of finding useful editorial
>> improvements after a statement has been issued for ALAC vote.
>>
>> While I didn't feel compelled to raise any for this particular
>> statement, since yours are of the editorial nature and don't change
>> the substance of the statement, I can support their inclusion as well.
>>
>> I would appreciate it if staff could coordinate with ALL the
>> penholders in finalising the copy on an urgent basis, and noting that
>> the ALAC vote is ongoing, all ALAC members should be informed
>> accordingly.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Justine
>> ------
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 15:54, Maureen Hilyard
>> <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com <mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Sebastien. Im sure we can go ahead with Bastiaan's
>> changes.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 9:27 PM Sebicann Bachollet
>> <sebicann at bachollet.fr <mailto:sebicann at bachollet.fr>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> Thanks Bastiaan,
>> I agree that your suggestion are not substantive but will
>> help to understand better the document.
>> May we ask Joanna, Bastiaan and Ricardo with staff to
>> finalise the document before sending as a comment?
>> THanks all.
>> All the best
>> SeB
>>
>> Sébastien Bachollet
>> +33 6 07 66 89 33
>> sebicann at bachollet.fr <mailto:sebicann at bachollet.fr>
>> @SebBach
>>
>> EURALO Chair
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Le 29 juil. 2020 à 18:13, Bastiaan Goslings
>>> <b.goslings at gmail.com <mailto:b.goslings at gmail.com>> a écrit :
>>>
>>> Thanks, Ricardo
>>>
>>> Fyi: staff, who knew I was not going to be on the OFB call,
>>> asked me as co-penholder to incorporate potential comments
>>> from the group afterwards. Which meant I would have to
>>> listen to the recording, assuming it would be quickly
>>> available. No problem. Of course no one knew that the group
>>> would support the last version of the draft as is, but the
>>> request from staff did imply to me that we at least had some
>>> time to do a(nother) final review.
>>>
>>> Anyway. I understand your point that, as there were no
>>> comments from the OFB WG, it was agreed to ask the ALAC to
>>> ratify the statement. I saw the message this morning, sent
>>> at 2AM CEST.
>>>
>>> I do not really have anything to add. I will leave it to
>>> others to decide whether my _editorial_ suggestions, which
>>> from my perspective can easily and quickly be incorporated
>>> before the deadline, are worth considering.
>>>
>>> take care
>>> Bastiaan
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 29 Jul 2020, at 17:54, Ricardo Holmquist
>>>> <rihogris at gmail.com <mailto:rihogris at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Bastiaan,
>>>> Yesterday, after the reading of the ATRT3 draft, there were
>>>> no comments, thus it was agreed it will be the final draft,
>>>> ready to be voted by ALAC. But, sure, you were part of the
>>>> drafting team, and we were supposed to wait for you to make
>>>> any arrangements after the OFBWG call. Of course there is
>>>> the rush to vote before friday.
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>> Ricardo
>>>>
>>>> El mié., 29 jul. 2020 17:36, Bastiaan Goslings
>>>> <b.goslings at gmail.com <mailto:b.goslings at gmail.com>> escribió:
>>>> Thanks, staff.
>>>>
>>>> A couple of comments, after going over the final draft
>>>> before I support ratification.
>>>>
>>>> - Under point 1;
>>>>
>>>> 'With that, the ALAC supports the ATRT3 suggestion to
>>>> introduce changes to the current structure of reviews,
>>>> specifically by implementing a moratorium on launching any
>>>> new Organizational and Specific Reviews until it has made a
>>>> decision on this recommendation, as per Section 8 of the
>>>> report).’
>>>>
>>>> I assume the ‘it’ referred to here is the ICANN board? As
>>>> it reads now, to me, it sounds like ‘it’ refers to the ALAC
>>>>
>>>> As an alternative: ‘(…) , specifically by having the ICANN
>>>> board implement a moratorium (…) until it has made a
>>>> decision’ (etc)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - With regard to point 2:
>>>>
>>>> This ('The ALAC fully endorses the recommendation’ (etc)
>>>> does not follow logically from the introduction above point
>>>> 1 ('we advise the ICANN Board to:’ and then come the 3 points)
>>>>
>>>> As an alternative: remove the ’The ALAC fully endorses’ and
>>>> replace with ‘Fully endorse'. You then get 'we advise the
>>>> ICANN Board to: (…) 2. Fully endorse’ (etc)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - With regard to point 3:
>>>>
>>>> This ('The ALAC shares’ (etc) does not follow logically
>>>> either from the introduction above point 1 ('we advise the
>>>> ICANN Board to:’ and then come the 3 points)
>>>>
>>>> As an alternative: remove the ’The ALAC shares’ and replace
>>>> with ’share’. You then get 'we advise the ICANN Board to:
>>>> (…) 3. share the ATRT3 Review Team’s approach’ (etc)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (To make it even more clear, the 'we advise the ICANN Board
>>>> to:’ could be added above both points 2 and 3 as well)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> With regard to my point 2 and 3 remarks above, these of
>>>> course only apply if we indeed want to explicitly state
>>>> ''we advise the ICANN Board to’. If that is not the case,
>>>> then we can remove the 'we advise the ICANN Board to:’
>>>> above point 1 and replace the ‘1. Swiftly implement ATRT3
>>>> recommendation to evolve both specific and organizational
>>>> reviews as per Section 8 of the final report' with
>>>>
>>>> ’The ALAC is of the opinion that the ATRT3 recommendation
>>>> to evolve both specific and organizational reviews as per
>>>> Section 8 of the final report should be swiftly implemented’
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hope this makes sense,
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>> Bastiaan
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