[OFB-WG] ALAC Statement on Third Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT3) Final Report
Marita Moll
mmoll at ca.inter.net
Thu Jul 30 13:37:32 UTC 2020
I am also okay with the editorial comments suggested although I have
already voted.
Marita
On 7/30/2020 4:53 AM, Justine Chew wrote:
> I too have found myself in the situation of finding useful editorial
> improvements after a statement has been issued for ALAC vote.
>
> While I didn't feel compelled to raise any for this particular
> statement, since yours are of the editorial nature and don't change
> the substance of the statement, I can support their inclusion as well.
>
> I would appreciate it if staff could coordinate with ALL the
> penholders in finalising the copy on an urgent basis, and noting that
> the ALAC vote is ongoing, all ALAC members should be informed accordingly.
>
> Thanks,
> Justine
> ------
>
>
> On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 15:54, Maureen Hilyard
> <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com <mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Thank you Sebastien. Im sure we can go ahead with Bastiaan's changes.
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 9:27 PM Sebicann Bachollet
> <sebicann at bachollet.fr <mailto:sebicann at bachollet.fr>> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> Thanks Bastiaan,
> I agree that your suggestion are not substantive but will help
> to understand better the document.
> May we ask Joanna, Bastiaan and Ricardo with staff to finalise
> the document before sending as a comment?
> THanks all.
> All the best
> SeB
>
> Sébastien Bachollet
> +33 6 07 66 89 33
> sebicann at bachollet.fr <mailto:sebicann at bachollet.fr>
> @SebBach
>
> EURALO Chair
>
>
>
>
>> Le 29 juil. 2020 à 18:13, Bastiaan Goslings
>> <b.goslings at gmail.com <mailto:b.goslings at gmail.com>> a écrit :
>>
>> Thanks, Ricardo
>>
>> Fyi: staff, who knew I was not going to be on the OFB call,
>> asked me as co-penholder to incorporate potential comments
>> from the group afterwards. Which meant I would have to listen
>> to the recording, assuming it would be quickly available. No
>> problem. Of course no one knew that the group would support
>> the last version of the draft as is, but the request from
>> staff did imply to me that we at least had some time to do
>> a(nother) final review.
>>
>> Anyway. I understand your point that, as there were no
>> comments from the OFB WG, it was agreed to ask the ALAC to
>> ratify the statement. I saw the message this morning, sent at
>> 2AM CEST.
>>
>> I do not really have anything to add. I will leave it to
>> others to decide whether my _editorial_ suggestions, which
>> from my perspective can easily and quickly be incorporated
>> before the deadline, are worth considering.
>>
>> take care
>> Bastiaan
>>
>>
>>> On 29 Jul 2020, at 17:54, Ricardo Holmquist
>>> <rihogris at gmail.com <mailto:rihogris at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Bastiaan,
>>> Yesterday, after the reading of the ATRT3 draft, there were
>>> no comments, thus it was agreed it will be the final draft,
>>> ready to be voted by ALAC. But, sure, you were part of the
>>> drafting team, and we were supposed to wait for you to make
>>> any arrangements after the OFBWG call. Of course there is
>>> the rush to vote before friday.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Ricardo
>>>
>>> El mié., 29 jul. 2020 17:36, Bastiaan Goslings
>>> <b.goslings at gmail.com <mailto:b.goslings at gmail.com>> escribió:
>>> Thanks, staff.
>>>
>>> A couple of comments, after going over the final draft
>>> before I support ratification.
>>>
>>> - Under point 1;
>>>
>>> 'With that, the ALAC supports the ATRT3 suggestion to
>>> introduce changes to the current structure of reviews,
>>> specifically by implementing a moratorium on launching any
>>> new Organizational and Specific Reviews until it has made a
>>> decision on this recommendation, as per Section 8 of the
>>> report).’
>>>
>>> I assume the ‘it’ referred to here is the ICANN board? As it
>>> reads now, to me, it sounds like ‘it’ refers to the ALAC
>>>
>>> As an alternative: ‘(…) , specifically by having the ICANN
>>> board implement a moratorium (…) until it has made a
>>> decision’ (etc)
>>>
>>>
>>> - With regard to point 2:
>>>
>>> This ('The ALAC fully endorses the recommendation’ (etc)
>>> does not follow logically from the introduction above point
>>> 1 ('we advise the ICANN Board to:’ and then come the 3 points)
>>>
>>> As an alternative: remove the ’The ALAC fully endorses’ and
>>> replace with ‘Fully endorse'. You then get 'we advise the
>>> ICANN Board to: (…) 2. Fully endorse’ (etc)
>>>
>>>
>>> - With regard to point 3:
>>>
>>> This ('The ALAC shares’ (etc) does not follow logically
>>> either from the introduction above point 1 ('we advise the
>>> ICANN Board to:’ and then come the 3 points)
>>>
>>> As an alternative: remove the ’The ALAC shares’ and replace
>>> with ’share’. You then get 'we advise the ICANN Board to:
>>> (…) 3. share the ATRT3 Review Team’s approach’ (etc)
>>>
>>>
>>> (To make it even more clear, the 'we advise the ICANN Board
>>> to:’ could be added above both points 2 and 3 as well)
>>>
>>>
>>> With regard to my point 2 and 3 remarks above, these of
>>> course only apply if we indeed want to explicitly state ''we
>>> advise the ICANN Board to’. If that is not the case, then we
>>> can remove the 'we advise the ICANN Board to:’ above point 1
>>> and replace the ‘1. Swiftly implement ATRT3 recommendation
>>> to evolve both specific and organizational reviews as per
>>> Section 8 of the final report' with
>>>
>>> ’The ALAC is of the opinion that the ATRT3 recommendation to
>>> evolve both specific and organizational reviews as per
>>> Section 8 of the final report should be swiftly implemented’
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope this makes sense,
>>>
>>> regards
>>> Bastiaan
>>>>
>>
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