[RDS-WHOIS2-RT-Leadership_Staff] Leadership call tomorrow 12:00 UTC?

[Alan Greenberg]

I have added Chris Disspain onto this e-mail thread.

Larisa, I must agree with Susan, and I do so on several grounds.

1. Although I and others were well aware of and shared the concern 
over starting ATRT3, and that there were "11 reviews ongoing (or 
whatever the number)", I was not in the faintest aware that halting 
or altering the RDS-WHOIS2 RT was on the table. And to add insult to 
this, we were not even given the slightest of early warning that this 
would be done.

2. I believe the presentation in the document is not accurate. It 
says "the Review Team planned to defer some of its work" whereas in 
fact the ToR says that "the review team may choose to defer some or 
all of its work in relation to the..." The work "MAY is critical as 
we have not made any such decision. as reflected in the later 
statement "Should any work be deferred". Moreover, I do not believe 
that the financial details presented with the options are accurate 
(although I never did receive the financial details that were asked 
for ages ago).

3. Two of the three options call for some or all of our work to be 
halted. At this point, our intent was to have much of the report and 
recommendation locked in by the end of the planned F2F in July. Do 
you really think this is motivation for us to "continue without any 
interruption or change in course", knowing that we may end up with a 
decision to largely scrap the work we are doing?

4. The document makes reference to us being a small RT and that is 
accurate. But I suspect we may actually have more active people than 
some of the larger RTs in the past.

Please don't get me wrong, I fought a strong battle to restrict the 
work of this RT to just a review of the WHOIS1-RT recommendations, 
and prior to that, to find the rationale for deferring the review 
altogether. I lost. I still believe that either would have been a 
wiser way to go. But we are where we are. To take this move now, and 
without any discussion with the RT or its leadership, or even any 
advance warning, was about as bad a move as I can imagine if ICANN 
really values volunteer contributions and efforts.

If anyone on our team asks why we should continue working now if the 
work may be effectively thrown away, I am not sure what my reply would be.

Perhaps this was felt to be a better way of doing things than to have 
the Board unilaterally take action as it did for the SSR2 Review. It 
certainly is different, but I have a hard time putting a label of 
"better" on it.

Alan


At 15/05/2018 04:16 PM, Susan Kawaguchi wrote:
>Larisa
>
>Thank you for the reassurance BUT the announcement alone has a 
>chilling effect on the RT especially in light of the treatment of SSR 2.
>
>This is NOT the way to treat volunteers in the community.  But then 
>maybe ICANN org wishes that we would all stay home and not be active 
>to allow the dismantling of the multistakeholder system.
>
>Susan
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 15, 2018, at 2:50 PM, Larisa B. Gurnick 
> <larisa.gurnick at icann.org> wrote:
> >
> > Alan,
> >
> > I  sent a note a little while ago, and just want to reiterate 
> that the public comment proposal is just options for consideration, 
> following discussions in Puerto Rico, to provide full transparency 
> to the community on ways that concerns could be addressed. Note 
> that the public comment period extends through early July.
> >
> > The work of RDS-WHOIS2 continues without any interruption or 
> change in course.  Looking forward to the discussion tomorrow.
> >
> > Thank you.
> > Larisa
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: RDS-WHOIS2-RT-Leadership_Staff 
> [mailto:rds-whois2-rt-leadership_staff-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf 
> Of Alan Greenberg
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 12:41 PM
> > To: RDS-WHOIS2-Leadership <rds-whois2-rt-leadership_staff at icann.org>
> > Subject: [RDS-WHOIS2-RT-Leadership_Staff] Leadership call 
> tomorrow 12:00 UTC?
> >
> > Susan is travelling today. In light of the announcement on 
> potentially halting or changing our review, she is suggesitng 
> meeting at 12:00 UTC Tomorrow - Wednesday.
> >
> > I can make that .
> >
> > Cathin and staff?
> >
> > Alan
> >
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