[RDS-WHOIS2-RT] Art 29 WP response

Carlton Samuels carlton.samuels at gmail.com
Sat Apr 14 21:15:24 UTC 2018


True. But here's the pwrfect example of being between a rock and a hard
place. If they cave they can kiss telling anybody, including Tuvalu, "you
must do so and so to play" goodbye forever!

First one on the list is 'the right to be forgotten'!

Take it as gospel every mother's son would invoke the 'security
consideration' exception hereafter.

Just like China is insisting and being told no.

-Carlton

On Sat, 14 Apr 2018, 3:46 pm Alan Greenberg, <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
wrote:

> In my mind, the real question is whether they are subject to any pressure
> from their own law enforcement and communications ministries. Alan
>
> At 13/04/2018 07:15 PM, Carlton Samuels wrote:
>
> Hate to say I told you so. But its proof of my own estimation that the
> response was going to be a yawn.
>
> I cannot understand why given the history and an competent understanding
> of how any bureaucracy, much less a Eurocrat one, defined in law and
> bounded by practice, would suddenly change their collective minds!
>
> -Carlton
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> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 5:47 AM, Volker Greimann <
> vgreimann at key-systems.net> wrote:
> As this may be somewhat relevant to the work we are doing, here is a link
> to the response of the Art. 29 WG to ICANNs letter:
>
>
> https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/jelinek-to-marby-11apr18-en.pdf
>
> To be sure, there is nothing substantially new in here, it re-iterates
> positions that many have voiced towards ICANN for years now, but it does
> provide a clear overview of where ICANNs proposed interim model falls
> short, and what the constrants to tiered access would be. While some
> already interpret this as "whois is dead!", I would not go so far, but for
> certain uses - beneficial as they may be - that statement probably applies.
> In general, this seems to provide a solid basis for further work, but ICANN
> should not have wasted its time waiting for this response instead of
> continuing to refine their interim model with what everyone (but ICANN Org
> apparently) was already expecting.
>
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