[RDS-WHOIS2-RT] Art 29 WP response

Sat Apr 14 21:40:07 UTC 2018

Are you joking?  they spend half their lives dealing with those guys.  
And their own governments.  It is not exactly a cushy job.  Requires 
some spine.

SP

On 2018-04-14 15:32, Alan Greenberg wrote:
> In my mind, the real question is whether they are subject to any 
> pressure from their own law enforcement and communications ministries. 
> Alan
>
> At 13/04/2018 07:15 PM, Carlton Samuels wrote:
>
>> Hate to say I told you so. But its proof of my own estimation that 
>> the response was going to be a yawn.
>>
>> I cannot understand why given the history and an competent 
>> understanding of how any bureaucracy, much less a Eurocrat one, 
>> defined in law and bounded by practice, would suddenly change their 
>> collective minds!
>>
>> -Carlton
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>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 5:47 AM, Volker Greimann 
>> <vgreimann at key-systems.net <mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     As this may be somewhat relevant to the work we are doing, here
>>     is a link to the response of the Art. 29 WG to ICANNs letter:
>>
>>     https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/jelinek-to-marby-11apr18-en.pdf
>>
>>
>>     To be sure, there is nothing substantially new in here, it
>>     re-iterates positions that many have voiced towards ICANN for
>>     years now, but it does provide a clear overview of where ICANNs
>>     proposed interim model falls short, and what the constrants to
>>     tiered access would be. While some already interpret this as
>>     "whois is dead!", I would not go so far, but for certain uses -
>>     beneficial as they may be - that statement probably applies. In
>>     general, this seems to provide a solid basis for further work,
>>     but ICANN should not have wasted its time waiting for this
>>     response instead of continuing to refine their interim model with
>>     what everyone (but ICANN Org apparently) was already expecting.
>>
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