[RDS-WHOIS2-RT] Art 29 WP response

Sat Apr 14 21:50:19 UTC 2018

I didn't say they didn't talk and I didn't say it was an easy job.

Alan

At 14/04/2018 05:40 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:

>Are you joking?  they spend half their lives 
>dealing with those guys.  And their own 
>governments.  It is not exactly a cushy job.  Requires some spine.
>
>SP
>On 2018-04-14 15:32, Alan Greenberg wrote:
>>In my mind, the real question is whether they 
>>are subject to any pressure from their own law 
>>enforcement and communications ministries. Alan
>>
>>At 13/04/2018 07:15 PM, Carlton Samuels wrote:
>>
>>>Hate to say I told you so. But its proof of my 
>>>own estimation that the response was going to be a yawn.
>>>
>>>I cannot understand why given the history and 
>>>an competent understanding of how any 
>>>bureaucracy, much less a Eurocrat one, defined 
>>>in law and bounded by practice, would suddenly change their collective minds!
>>>
>>>-Carlton
>>>
>>>
>>>==============================
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>>>On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 5:47 AM, Volker 
>>>Greimann <<mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net> 
>>>vgreimann at key-systems.net> wrote:
>>>As this may be somewhat relevant to the work 
>>>we are doing, here is a link to the response 
>>>of the Art. 29 WG to ICANNs letter:
>>>
>>><https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/jelinek-to-marby-11apr18-en.pdf>https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/jelinek-to-marby-11apr18-en.pdf 
>>>
>>>To be sure, there is nothing substantially new 
>>>in here, it re-iterates positions that many 
>>>have voiced towards ICANN for years now, but 
>>>it does provide a clear overview of where 
>>>ICANNs proposed interim model falls short, and 
>>>what the constrants to tiered access would be. 
>>>While some already interpret this as "whois is 
>>>dead!", I would not go so far, but for certain 
>>>uses - beneficial as they may be - that 
>>>statement probably applies. In general, this 
>>>seems to provide a solid basis for further 
>>>work, but ICANN should not have wasted its 
>>>time waiting for this response instead of 
>>>continuing to refine their interim model with 
>>>what everyone (but ICANN Org apparently) was already expecting.
>>>--
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>>>
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