[RDS-WHOIS2-RT] Subgroup 4 Compliance draft report

Volker Greimann vgreimann at key-systems.net
Fri Jun 22 16:31:57 UTC 2018


Hi Susan,

thank you for your comments, I understand the issue better now. We can 
just point that out in the presentation.

Regarding the grandfathered domains I explained that in the mail I sent 
yesterday evening. The 2013 date is actually irrelevant to the question 
of whether a domain is a grandfathered domain or not, the only relevant 
date is when the registrar it is registered through signed the new RAA. 
So if it was with registrar X all the time and registrar X only switched 
to the new RAA in 2016, that is the relevant date for that domain.

There is also a significant trend that can be seen in the various ARS 
reports that shows that grandfathered domains are reducing at a fast 
pace, exactly what was forseen by the parties to the 2013 RAA. For more 
on this, I also point to yesterdays mail.

For the other points, I will try to submit my proposed edits tomorrow.

Best,
Volker


Am 22.06.2018 um 18:22 schrieb Susan Kawaguchi:
> Hi Volker,
>
> Please see my responses in red below
>
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 9:07 AM, Volker Greimann 
> <vgreimann at key-systems.net <mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net>> wrote:
>
>     One comment regarding the second bullet on page 4:
>
>     The latest ARS report has just over 30%, not 40%. We should update
>     this accordingly. Also "not required to adhere to the 2013 RAA" is
>     not entirely correct as only certain aspects of it would not apply.
>
> These slides were based on the review and analysis of the materials 
> previous to the recent report.  I have not had time to read the latest 
> ARS report and will not before the meeting. If you would like to add 
> that into the slides as a note I am fine with that but if we change 
> the slide to remove the 40% we would need to do that to the full 
> report and I do not have time to do that until after the meeting.
>
>     This comment also applies to bullet 3 on page 5. Also, "registered
>     before 2013" is factually incorrect as grandfathered domains could
>     be newly registered even this year as there is still one registrar
>     under the 2009 RAA.
>
> I do not agree with that can provide more detail and analysis on this 
> point?
>
>     Page : I cannot support draft rec number two, as I detailed in an
>     earlier email on this topic.
>
> Please note your objection in the slide.  I attempted to note the 
> level of consensus including your objection.
>
>     Draft Rec 3 makes no sense and should be rewritten. Please provide
>     proposed edits
>
>     Draft Re 7 notes my opposition, but not the reasons behind it.
>
> Please enter your reasoning into the slide.
>
>     Volker
>
>
>     Am 22.06.2018 um 04:10 schrieb Lisa Phifer:
>>     Thanks Susan for this confirmation.
>>
>>     Your subgroup consensus notations will be folded into the master
>>     slide deck now.
>>
>>     Best, Lisa
>>
>>
>>     At 06:36 PM 6/21/2018, Susan Kawaguchi wrote:
>>>     Hello All,Â
>>>
>>>     I have reviewed the slides and they look great.  I have also Â
>>>     indicated a preliminary level of consensus for each
>>>     recommendation.Â
>>>
>>>     Susan
>>>
>>>     On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 5:13 PM, Lisa Phifer <lisa at corecom.com
>>>     <mailto:lisa at corecom.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         Susan,
>>>
>>>         Attached are updated slides for the Compliance section of
>>>         the ICANN62 engagement slide deck, reflecting the
>>>         recommendations in the subgroup report distributed on 15 June.
>>>
>>>         Please review to confirm these slides reflect the Compliance
>>>         subgroup's work and flag any recommendations that have not
>>>         yet been fully agreed upon by subgroup members. As discussed
>>>         in today's plenary call, rapporteur edits to their
>>>         subgroup's slides are requested no later than 15.00 UTC
>>>         Wednesday.
>>>
>>>         Regards,
>>>         Lisa
>>>
>>>
>>>         At 07:18 AM 6/15/2018, Susan Kawaguchi wrote:
>>>
>>>             Hello All,
>>>
>>>             I have updated the Compliance report for subgroup 4.
>>>
>>>             Please see attached.
>>>
>>>             Susan
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