[RDS-WHOIS2-RT] ICANN Proposal to adjust scope of RDS-WHOIS2-RT

Alan Greenberg alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
Thu May 17 15:00:59 UTC 2018


It is not set in stone. But it is what is on the 
current workplan that we agreed to. We can change 
it at will. But doing so, may well have an impact 
on the outcome of the public consultation and we 
will need to consider that if we decide to adjust that date.

Alan

At 17/05/2018 10:42 AM, Volker Greimann wrote:

>Personally, I see no reason why this deadline 
>should be set in stone as there is no urgency 
>for our output, but I will go along with the group consensus.
>
>Best,
>
>Volker
>
>Am 16.05.2018 um 19:54 schrieb Alan Greenberg:
>>I presume then that you and others are willing 
>>to keep working and meet our deadline of a 
>>draft report at or soon after the July F2F.
>>
>>Alan
>>
>>At 16/05/2018 10:23 AM, Volker Greimann wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Alan,
>>>
>>>I absolutely agree that it is strange that 
>>>ICANN seems to want to pause this without 
>>>consulting us first. But as this is the cards 
>>>we have been dealt, we need to figure out how 
>>>to play them and in this case I vote for 
>>>following the community consensus, if any.
>>>
>>>As for Monday, it is a public holiday that I will be travelling on.
>>>
>>>Best,
>>>
>>>Volker
>>>
>>>Am 16.05.2018 um 16:08 schrieb Alan Greenberg:
>>>>Volker,
>>>>
>>>>Of course we serve at the pleasure of the community.
>>>>
>>>>The question is process and timing. That this 
>>>>was done with no consultation with us, I find 
>>>>strange. But the really difficult part is 
>>>>that we are being told to keep on working 
>>>>(and I have confirmed that this is the 
>>>>intent) with a target of having a draft 
>>>>report complete just after the July F2F, and 
>>>>at THAT point, we may be told to scrap part 
>>>>of what we have been working on between now 
>>>>an then, or put the entire project on hold 
>>>>for some indeterminate time, and when it 
>>>>resumes it may be with a different team and 
>>>>much of the work will have to be redone.
>>>>
>>>>We will discuss this further at the Monday 
>>>>meeting, and for those who will not be there, 
>>>>your input is appreciated ahead of time.
>>>>
>>>>Susan has suggested that we go back to our 
>>>>appointing groups for their input.
>>>>
>>>>Alan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>At 16/05/2018 06:03 AM, Volker Greimann wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>We serve at the pleasure of
>>>>>the community, so I would not object to any
>>>>>consensus position either way. While a) is the most logical choice,
>>>>>preserving most of our work efforts so far, the others also have some
>>>>>merit due to the changes ahead. And as ICANN has just thrown another
>>>>>curve-ball in the form of the proposed temporary specification, more
>>>>>change seems to be on the horizon, which could further outdate our work
>>>>>product.
>>>>>
>>>>>Best,
>>>>>
>>>>>Volker
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Am 16.05.2018 um 04:30 schrieb Alan Greenberg:
>>>>> > I call your attention to a Public Comment (PC) launched yesterday
>>>>> > asking for input on alternatives to alter the RDS-WHOIS2-RT Scope
>>>>>and
>>>>> > plans (as well possible changes to the not yet started ATRT3) -
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>><https://www.icann.org/public-comments/specific-reviews-short-term-timeline-2018-05-14-en>https://www.icann.org/public-comments/specific-reviews-short-term-timeline-2018-05-14-en
>>>>>.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I proposes three possible scenarios for our RT:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > a) Proceeds as planned;
>>>>> >
>>>>> > b) reduce scope to just an analysis of the WHOIS1-RT
>>>>>Recommendations;
>>>>> >
>>>>> > c) pause the review entirely for some as yet to be determined time.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > If recommended by the community, b) and c) would require our
>>>>> > agreement. The implications of a community recommendation that we
>>>>> > refused to agree with are not known. If there is a pause, it is not
>>>>> > clear when the unpause would happen and to what extent it would be
>>>>>the
>>>>> > same team moving forward.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The PC ends on 06 July 2018 and the report on input received is due
>>>>>on
>>>>> > 23 July 2018, a few days before we are currently planning to meet in
>>>>> > Brussels to close-to-finalize our report.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Although the PC was issues yesterday, neither I nor Susan and
>>>>>Cathrin
>>>>> > had any prior knowledge of it and in fact we only heard of it
>>>>>today.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > We have initiated discussions with MSSI on exactly what this means
>>>>>and
>>>>> > will get back when I have a better understanding.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Alan
>>>>> >
>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>>> > RDS-WHOIS2-RT mailing list
>>>>> >
>>>>><https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rds-whois2-rt>
>>>>>RDS-WHOIS2-RT at icann.org
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
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