[tech-whois] A follow up session in San Francisco?

[Jay Daley]

Hi Steve

On 2/02/2011, at 2:04 PM, Steve Sheng wrote:

> What do others on the mailing list think? Since Whois is used not only by GNSO constituencies, but by ccTLDs, RIRs as well. Should this be a joint working group with other SOs and ACs, for example with SSAC? Another question is should the discussion happen inside IETF instead of ICANN? 

I would recommend that we have a joint WG across all constituencies that discusses "A new directory service" and that does what Michael suggested, which is consider the various requirements and get agreement on those.  The registrar and user communities may have just as much input as the registries.

Once that is done then we can take two further steps:

1.  Have a joint WG on whether to scrap the current WHOIS service.
2.  Ask the IETF to look at the protocol needed to support this new service including revisiting CRISP.

cheers
Jay

>  
> Warm regards, 
> Steve
> 
> 
> On 1/31/11 10:35 AM, "Michael Young" <myoung at ca.afilias.info> wrote:
> 
> I tend to agree with James on this one, if we are going to do something
> meaningful here, let's put a plan together on how to do so.
> 
> I think the last meeting found that we all agree that the current Whois is
> at least lacking a solution for IDNs (I think we all agreed on other
> shortcomings as well, but that was the most urgent one I noted). 
> 
> There are many other controversial potential Whois requirements that are
> related to the Whois policy(and related studies) work going on.  I suggest
> we try and focus on building a requirements list of items that we believe a)
> don't constrain or affect current or anticipated policy issues and have the
> GNSO/IRD review and agree on that  list  b) if they do have policy
> implications but are urgent (such as IDN enablement), let's work with the
> IRD and GNSO to create some prioritized attention to the issues.
> 
> Once you have an agreed upon set of requirements, with the relevant
> stakeholders bought in, the rest becomes an examination of inventory and
> then execution.  We can then examine the most efficient proposals to solve
> the requirements - including looking at past work to see if there's anything
> worth reusing.
> 
> Michael Young
> 
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James M Galvin [mailto:jgalvin at afilias.info]
> Sent: January-31-11 1:23 PM
> To: Steve Sheng; tech-whois at icann.org
> Subject: Re: [tech-whois] A follow up session in San Francisco?
> 
> I'm not opposed to a follow up session in San Francisco but I'd like to have
> a more actionable goal for the meeting than "engage a discussion on the
> technical evolution of WHOIS".
> 
> One thing that was clear from our last meeting is somebody needs to "own"
> this work.  A generic meeting with a generic agenda is not making progress.
> If this work is going to progress then from whom is there a formal mandate
> and what is it?
> 
> Without an actionable goal we're just using up meeting slots.
> 
> For one thing, let's be clear about whether we're talking about the Whois
> protocol, the Whois data model, or the Whois data representation.
> 
> Depending on the actionable goal, if we are going to have presentations by
> RWS and IRIS, perhaps a presentation by the IRD would be helpful since it
> will have something to say about future requirements for a replacement Whois
> data model.
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- On January 26, 2011 9:52:17 AM -0800 Steve Sheng <steve.sheng at icann.org>
> wrote regarding [tech-whois] A follow up session in San Francisco? --
> 
> > Dear all,
> >
> >   We had a successful workshop in Cartagena last year. Thinking ahead
> > for the San Francisco meeting, we would like to ask if there would be
> > any interest in scheduling a follow up session in San Francisco.
> > Particularly we thought about inviting IRIS and RWS authors and
> > implementers to come and give presentations about their experience,
> > and then engage a discussion on the technical evolution of WHOIS.
> >
> >   If there is sufficient interest, we can request a slot in the San
> > Francisco meeting and invite speakers to come.
> >
> > Warm regards,
> 
> 
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