[technology taskforce] How to network outside Zoom sessions?
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond
ocl at gih.com
Fri Oct 30 12:44:30 UTC 2020
Hello all,
Chris Buckridge from RIPE has mentioned that RIPE 81 used a software
called "SpacialChat". In his words:
And one final point - we’ve been using Spatialchat during the breaks (and for the “virtual dinner”) at RIPE 81 this week, and it’s been a huge success from my perspective (and what I’ve heard from others) - rock solid system, and a lovely chance to actually “run into” people and chat… it’s not the same as in-person, but it’s a definite step in that direction:
https://spatial.chat
It would therefore be good to add this to the shortlist of software that
TTF could test out.
Kindest regards,
Olivier
On 21/10/2020 19:24, Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society wrote:
> Hello, lots of choices. I'll throw in another one :
> Hopin https://hopin.to/
> Here's the short 85 second teaser video https://youtu.be/EpErMqMyNN4
>
> I attended a online conference (not related to ICANN) and it had
> several features which to me would fit well with ICANN meetings :
>
> - Reception Area where latest updates, links are shared, resources -
> like the lobby of the ICANN meeting
> - main stage where the main sessions will take place - so things like
> welcome session and key plenary sessions, webinars
> - Sessions - the "smaller" sessions so At-Large sessions with NPOC,
> GAC, SSAC, GNSO tracks happening or breakout sessions ; each session
> can have its own chat so you can always have an at-large group chat ;
> you can have "special" sessions so only certain persons will see it
> and not publicised, so maybe the ALAC Excom logged in attendees could
> have their room to strategize, ICANN Staff can have for their internal
> staff coordination
> - networking - you can directly video chat with any person attending
> the event so when you go for a "coffee" break or want to follow up or
> meet someone, you can or pair up with a conference attendee randomly
> (or set it up like Fellows will be paired with mentors or SMEs)
> - Expo area - vendors can still have their "booths" you can network ,
> you click on the booth and participate in the live session with the
> vendor (so you could have a virtual At-Large booth there) or have a on
> demand video played and a vendor chat with participants
> - all the while, there's a main chat which you can hide but then also
> participate in so there's no separate chat channel ; Organisers and
> Hosts messages in the chat are more clearly identified so you see the
> staff responses faster
> - live polls can be done to get the "temperature of the room"
>
> Here's the 2 min orientation video by the conference organiser of the
> one I attended https://youtu.be/Iqt1Df9Ffgk
> and one which is a much deeper dive of the hopin features
> : https://youtu.be/ikj54geMF8M?t=122
>
> So to me, it really brings the F2F event online in a way which I
> didn't see before.
>
> So definitely this should also be looked at by the TTF
>
> --
> Dev Anand
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 at 07:20, Judith Hellerstein
> <judith at jhellerstein.com <mailto:judith at jhellerstein.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Olivier,
>
> OK you make a good point. we will test them, irregardless of what
> ICANN says. I will schedule them a couple of them for either the
> December or the January meeting.
>
> Best.
> Judith
>
> Sent from my iPad
> judith at jhellerstein.com <mailto:judith at jhellerstein.com>
> Skype ID:JudithHellerstein
>
>> On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:56 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond
>> <ocl at gih.com <mailto:ocl at gih.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Judith,
>>
>> this is the Technology Task Force which tests out *all*
>> technology irrespective of what ICANN decides to approve at the
>> end. Youtube is there to watch sessions more easily and using
>> less resources than Zoom. Remo is for networking outside
>> sessions. So are Gathertown and Virbela. Let's test them out on
>> future TTF meetings?
>> Kindest regards,
>>
>> Olivier
>>
>> On 20/10/2020 19:55, Judith Hellerstein wrote:
>>>
>>> HI Raitme,
>>>
>>> Thanks so much for your comments. I have heard good things
>>> about REMO. However at ICANN we are limited to use the
>>> technologies that are approved. We are trying to get some new
>>> engagement tools approved and working within the system and
>>> hopefully we will succeed. We did succeed in getting this
>>> YouRube pilot at the ICANN meetings and we hope it is a way to
>>> watch sessions with less bandwidth interruptions
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Judith
>>>
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>>> On 10/20/2020 9:07 AM, Raitme Citterio wrote:
>>>> Greetings to everyone
>>>>
>>>> On this interesting point, I would like to comment a little on
>>>> my experience in some virtual socialization environments
>>>>
>>>> A few years ago, second life was an excellent 3d environment
>>>> for events and interest group socialization, however, this tool
>>>> is not exactly inclusive for the following reasons
>>>>
>>>> - It requires a bandwidth of at least 10 mb to be able to have
>>>> a good experience, (this unfortunately is not possible in many
>>>> regions of the world where they do not even have half this
>>>> minimum).
>>>>
>>>> - requires having a computer almost at a gamer style level,
>>>> configuration that is usually quite expensive for most.
>>>>
>>>> However I would like to share a similar to REMO but simpler and
>>>> much cheaper to make meetings of more than 25 people for the
>>>> price works in terms of the amount of time per participant
>>>> connected. https://gather.town/pricing
>>>>
>>>> They also allow to create 2D environments where they have
>>>> different style pre-configurations (Campus, schools, offices)
>>>> as well as allowing to create their own configurations.
>>>>
>>>> The interesting thing, to my evaluation that allows to create
>>>> inside that space, interactive elements to promote the virtual
>>>> collaboration. since it foments the gamification of all the
>>>> spaces. also it allows to create personal spaces for the
>>>> assistants. I think that this differentiating factor can be
>>>> interesting to explore (also has the typical for meetings chat,
>>>> audio, video)
>>>>
>>>> https://gather.town/features
>>>>
>>>> Most importantly, you can have spaces for small groups of up to
>>>> 25 people for free as long as they are used regularly.
>>>>
>>>> If some people want I can create a test space for those who
>>>> wish to enter and test it.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>>
>>>> Raitme Citterio
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> El lun., 19 de oct. de 2020 a la(s) 06:09, Alfredo Calderon
>>>> (calderon.alfredo at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:calderon.alfredo at gmail.com>) escribió:
>>>>
>>>> Other organizations have been using VIRBELA -
>>>> https://www.virbela.com/, as well. It is just a matter to
>>>> continue studying the virtues of each virtual environment
>>>> and if it really generates a more healthy social networking
>>>> scenario.
>>>>
>>>> The most hardship might come when the bandwidth, technical
>>>> requirements, and user- friendly issues are on the table.
>>>>
>>>> I personally have ha]d the opportunity to participate in
>>>> mass meetings and breakout sessions in Second Life, Virbela
>>>> and Zoom. Which is the Best? Depends on who manages the
>>>> system, and what you wish to accomplish.
>>>>
>>>> * Recording breakout sessions,
>>>> * Multimedia capabilities,
>>>> * Bandwidth and interoperability standards,
>>>> * equipment requirements and accessibility,
>>>> * among a few.
>>>>
>>>> It sounds like a good idea to retake this conversation, and
>>>> setup some demos with these companies.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> photo
>>>>
>>>> *Alfredo Calderon*
>>>> eLearning Consultant
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:30 AM DANIEL NANGHAKA
>>>> <dndannang at gmail.com <mailto:dndannang at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Friends and Colleagues,
>>>>
>>>> I agree this is an innovative tool but the update of
>>>> suggestion from At-Large many times goes through a
>>>> process which makes implementation so much a challenge
>>>> to adopt new tools and ideas.
>>>>
>>>> A recommendation can be made and I look forward to the
>>>> tools being tested and implemented.
>>>>
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 11:16, Jonathan Zuck
>>>> <JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org
>>>> <mailto:JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Olivier! I brought this tool up some time
>>>> ago and have mentioned it to ICANN IT. I just thing
>>>> it will be a loooong road before we get access to
>>>> such a thing in an official capacity but it IS an
>>>> innovative tool!
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>>>> *From:* ttf <ttf-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>>> <mailto:ttf-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>> on
>>>> behalf of Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com
>>>> <mailto:ocl at gih.com>>
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2020 4:13 AM
>>>> *To:* ttf at atlarge-lists.icann.org
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>>>> <ttf at atlarge-lists.icann.org
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>>>> *Subject:* [technology taskforce] How to network
>>>> outside Zoom sessions?
>>>>
>>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>>
>>>> in today's ALAC Session with the ICANN Board today,
>>>> Joanna Kulesza explained the negative impact of
>>>> having virtual ICANN meetings on the At-Large
>>>> Community, because the essential community building
>>>> social and networking component part is missing
>>>> from a virtual meeting.
>>>> In recent months I have attended several IGFs and
>>>> the UK IGF used an interesting social event tool
>>>> called REMO. More details on https://remo.co/
>>>> A demo video is available on:
>>>> https://youtu.be/P01JxUBNU2Y
>>>> <https://youtu.be/P01JxUBNU2Y>
>>>>
>>>> I could imagine a break, for example, where each of
>>>> the tables on the one floor is run by 1 ALAC
>>>> member. And 3 tables on the other floor are run by
>>>> a RALO leadership each, and people can move around
>>>> from table to table. I wonder if this could be fun
>>>> and helpful?
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps should this be checked out at some point?
>>>> Perhaps there are other places that can be tested
>>>> out? SecondLife? Others?
>>>> Kindest regards,
>>>>
>>>> Olivier
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