[tz] Timezone error (Kyiv not Kiev)

Jacob Pratt jacob at jhpratt.dev
Mon Jul 11 23:47:48 UTC 2022

I feel it necessary to reiterate my call for not engaging. This "argument"
is meritless and circular. There is nothing new to add from anyone.

As someone who is subscribed to this list to stay up-to-date with changes
to tzdb, I find this thread in particular extremely annoying and spammy. At
some point I will be working on support for tzdb in Rust's most widely used
time handling library. If I am not subscribed to this list, it will impact
far more people than just me: it will affect an entire programming
language. Ultimately there is a choice to be made, and it's not on my end.
I should not have to resort to this, but I'm not wasting my time handling
repetitive, insulting, and derogatory emails. The choice is yours.

Jacob Pratt

On Mon, Jul 11, 2022, 19:39 Petro Ord via tz <tz at iana.org> wrote:

> > No. It was updated because information on the ground indicates that the
> local time had changed.
> Time in the Crimea was changed solely in support of the russian
> invasion (and in a few days).
> Name Kyiv has not been corrected also to show support of the terrorist
> country (this error persists in the tzdb since 1991).
> Nowhere in the "theory and pragmatics of the tz code and data" it is
> explained or clarified why Kyiv was chosen over Kiev.
> “Mainstream English spelling” does not have any hidden meanings, it
> says "spelling" not "usage", "popularity" or else, it says "spelling".
> ср, 6 июл. 2022 г. в 01:03, Derick Rethans <tz at derickrethans.nl>:
> >
> > On 5 July 2022 22:50:01 BST, Petro Ord via tz <tz at iana.org> wrote:
> > >> “Mainstream English spelling” refers to how a word is typically
> spelled in English-language contexts.
> > >It does not say so, it is your interpretation.
> > >
> > >> It is neither of those, and you are far out of line for making these
> baseless accusations about my intent or that of anyone else on this list.
> > >You may think differently or have other intent, but it does not change
> > >the fact that prompt updated in Crimea in 2014 and persistent
> > >KyivNotKiev error are done for political reason in favor of terrorist
> > >country - russia
> >
> > No. It was updated because information on the ground indicates that the
> local time had changed.
> >
> > Reading anything else into this is incorrect.
> >
> > Now please shut up and wait until a next release of tzdata is made.
> >
> > cheers
> > Derick
> >
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