[UA-discuss] [UA-International] IDN-as-punycode-encoded-label in Baidu search engine results

Wed Dec 2 06:46:27 UTC 2015

Jin,

Thanks.  This is excellent.

With regard to a CIO Handbook, this is in Mark’s court.  Mark is waiting to appoint a technical writer.

The latest version of the “Introduction to UA” is attached.  It will form the core of a CIO’s handbook.

There is another small group, Dennis & Rich, who are working on an Internet Industry guidebook (actually just registries and registrars – but I hope it can be expanded).  That will provide a template for other Industry guidebooks.

Don

From:  Jin Wang <jin.wang at internetregistry.info>
Date:  Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 7:43 PM
To:  Dennis Tan <dtantanaka at verisign.com>
Cc:  ua-discuss <UA-discuss at icann.org>, "ua-international at icann.org" <ua-international at icann.org>, Jiankang Yao <yaojk at cnnic.cn>, Brent London <brentlondon at google.com>, Don Hollander <don.hollander at icann.org>, Mark Švančárek <marksv at microsoft.com>
Subject:  Re: [UA-discuss] [UA-International] IDN-as-punycode-encoded-label in Baidu search engine results

Hi Gentelmen, 

I reckoned the term Dennis used is an IDN.com but all the BAIDU results just took the Chinese key words (the parts that were high-lighted in red)--- it barely has anything to do with domain name. It is really hard to come to the conclusion that BAIDU is supporting IDNs in their search engine.

At present, Baidu is the leading search engine in China but there are still a handful companies providing similar services in China. Therefore, instead of having one or two experts talking to the companies one by one, I suggest we'd better make a combined effort to talk to a group of companies - search engines, mailbox service provider, input methods (for Chinese pinyin), and also some of the smartphone manufacturers. As most of them are competing locally rather than globally, it might works better to start within China, especially when some of the world's biggest player is in absence in China.

I can voluntarily embark on finding out a viable communication channel so that we can have a dialog mechanism in the future. 

Best Regards,
Jin

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Jiankang Yao <yaojk at cnnic.cn> wrote:

I can help to talk to baidu and forward your message to them.

Jiankang Yao

From: Tan Tanaka, Dennis
Date: 2015-11-24 05:45
To: UA-discuss at icann.org
CC: ua-international at icann.org
Subject: [UA-International] IDN-as-punycode-encoded-label in Baidu search engine results
Often times I hear that IDNs are not indexed by certain search engines. While I know this is not true, the example below doesn’t help my case either (at least not 100%). Here is an example where the IDN I’m looking for is showing up in the first 5 search results on Baidu (see picture below). However, the string is displayed as the punycode-encoded label instead of the corresponding Chinese IDN (i.e. xn--ebr05n.com) . 

Google and Yandex appear to work as expected. Bing didn’t display the domain name in the results (first two pages).

Is there someone interested (and with the language skills) in taking the action item to reach out to Baidu? This might be in the form of opening a bug ticket to explain the problem (IDN is displayed as punycode-encoded label. Example: xn--ebr05.com) and what the expected result should have been (IDN displayed as Chinese domain nam. Example: 墨刀.com). 

Dennis Tan 
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