[UA-discuss] [UA-Discuss] Acceptance Tests done for sites

Thu May 19 19:09:41 UTC 2016

Dirk,

Yes yes and yes.

"Would the top 500 alexa sites be a truly representative sample?"
- We also included "top virtual communities", top applications, etc. Always
looking to expand the list but, insofar as "likelihood that New gTLD
customer would visit the website", the Alexa 500 is quite representative of
where most people go. Developers tend to learn from each other and update
code: if the largest web properties have UA-ready interfaces, it is likely
that smaller web properties in terms of visitors/traffic will have an
incentive to follow suit and catch up.

"Also, financial institutions and government institutions don't show up as
part of the Alexa top 500 but are also very important."

- Agreed: as for Financial institutions, they are part of Alexa 500 (
http://www.alexa.com/topsites):
Chase .com is #115, BankofAmerica .com #136, WellsFargo .com #153, etc.
These often appear to require an Account to register for the online
account, but can be tested partially by, e.g., signing up for news or
offers. Remember that we are testing the User Interface. If I can use a
non-ASCII or New gTLD email address to interact with Wells Fargo, that is
one way to test it - without having to rely on an actual account with Wells
Fargo. By the way, I just found out that HDFC Bank's User Interface accepts
both short and long ASCII New gTLDs, but nothing at all with a non-ASCII
character (they would prompt the user to "enter a valid email format"). So,
in other words, imperfect but most websites can be tested in one way or
another.

I should have added in my earlier message that, while I began the testing
at Donuts in 2015, I am now working on this on behalf of the UASG :-) In
this capacity, I am a new addition to the UASG's efforts (Contractor). I
have not started outreach yet; working with Don on the strategy. But
outreach, in my personal opinion, is the ultimate aim of the testing.

Thanks,
Alina

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Dirk Bhagat <dirk at get.club> wrote:

> Hi Alina
>
> Those numbers sound reasonable and are good insights.
>
> For example, from our tests  if we removed the number of sites we couldn't
> test, then the number of sites where .club was accepted would stand around
> 83%, which is more inline with your calc for a 4 character ascii tld like
> .CLUB.
> The being said, would the top 500 alexa sites be a truly representative
> sample?, I don't know. Also, financial institutions and government
> institutions don't show up as part of the Alexa top 500 but are also very
> important.
>
> I would also say that while the testing is relatively easy (but tedious),
>  the outreach and follow up (as one part of the strategy) is where the real
> difficulty lies and I'm hopeful that with ICANN's financial support we can
> undertake this effort and make a meaningful dent.
>
> Thank you.
> --
> Dirk Bhagat
>
> CoFounder, CTO
> .CLUB DOMAINS LLC.
> 100 SE 3rd Ave, Suite 1310
> Fort Lauderdale, Fl, 33394
> o: 954.530.2580 m: 416.839.4945
> Get.club <http://www.get.club>
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Alina Syunkova <alina.syunkova at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Dirk,
>>
>> Similar work was started at Donuts back in 2015. I am continuing some of
>> that work.
>>
>> We began surveying the Internet's highest-profile websites, particularly
>> the Alexa 500, for their capacity to accept New gTLD email addresses when
>> registering a new user account. While Donuts tested only email addresses in
>> ASCII, I am now testing in non-ASCII as well.
>>
>> Recently drew some numbers off 150 of the websites - only one-third of
>> the list we set out to test.
>>
>> - a short New gTLD (.tech - 4 characters) gets accepted 89% of the time
>> - a long New gTLD (.technology - 5+ characters) gets accepted closer to
>> 70% of the time
>> - a .com email address that contains non-ASCII characters left of the dot
>> gets accepted closer to 40% of the time
>> - an email address that contains non-ASCII characters (e.g., Thai,
>> Arabic) both left and right of the dot rarely gets accepted, i.e., about 5%
>> of the time
>>
>> In other words, for this type of UA testing, two of the factors that
>> appear to matter are:
>>
>> - TLD length (ccTLD or 3 characters versus 4 or 5+ characters)
>> - SLD and TLD: ASCII or non-ASCII? To the left of the dot only, or
>> non-ASCII characters on both sides?
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Alina
>>
>> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 8:05 AM, Dirk Bhagat <dirk at get.club> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Andrew
>>> Good to hear.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dirk Bhagat
>>>
>>> CoFounder, CTO
>>> .CLUB DOMAINS LLC.
>>> 100 SE 3rd Ave, Suite 1310
>>> Fort Lauderdale, Fl, 33394
>>> o: 954.530.2580 m: 416.839.4945
>>> Get.club <http://www.get.club>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Robertson, Andrew <
>>> Andrew.Robertson at edelman.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Dirk,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks very much for this information, which is quite useful. We'll aim
>>>> to build this into the proof points we're developing as part of the
>>>> messaging.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I may have a coupe of questions for you, which I'll come back to you on
>>>> directly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +44 7921 588 770
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* ua-discuss-bounces at icann.org <ua-discuss-bounces at icann.org> on
>>>> behalf of Dirk Bhagat <dirk at get.club>
>>>> *Sent:* 18 May 2016 14:15:55
>>>> *To:* UA-discuss at icann.org
>>>> *Subject:* [UA-discuss] [UA-Discuss] Acceptance Tests done for sites
>>>>
>>>> Hi All
>>>>
>>>> As part of .Club's effort prior to UASG,  .club had hand tested around
>>>> 600 popular  sites [mostly from Alexa]  for their ability to accept
>>>> *.club* email addresses.
>>>>
>>>> Here is the testing spreadsheet we used:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WIhKvD7mvK7xHyRWGNK1AcDTK7Yhdt69RXuPKcpTIZA/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>
>>>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WIhKvD7mvK7xHyRWGNK1AcDTK7Yhdt69RXuPKcpTIZA/edit?usp=sharing>
>>>> TESTING email at nic.club.xlsx
>>>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WIhKvD7mvK7xHyRWGNK1AcDTK7Yhdt69RXuPKcpTIZA/edit?usp=sharing>
>>>> docs.google.com
>>>> Sheet1 email@ nic. club verification Domain, Status, Account created,
>>>> Receiving, Sending, Reason Free E-mail providers, Statuses 10minutemail.
>>>> com, Can' t Test, Does not require email, Passed 123greetings. com, Passed,
>>>> Yes, Yes, Failed 365greetings. com, Failed, No, Set up: not successful(...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This spreadsheet breaks the list down into a few categories:
>>>>
>>>> -. Free Email providers
>>>> -. Top Retailers
>>>> -. Travel
>>>> -.  Email Newsletter Services
>>>> -.  Music Services
>>>> -.  Social Networks
>>>>
>>>> Of the 600 sites, roughly 65% were confirmed to have passed, 13%
>>>> confirmed to have *failed*, and 21% could not be tested for one reason
>>>> or another.
>>>>
>>>> Although there is a lot more work to be done, I believe it's a good
>>>> starting point.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dirk Bhagat
>>>>
>>>> CoFounder, CTO
>>>> .CLUB DOMAINS LLC.
>>>> 100 SE 3rd Ave, Suite 1310
>>>> Fort Lauderdale, Fl, 33394
>>>> o: 954.530.2580 m: 416.839.4945
>>>> Get.club <http://www.get.club>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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