[IAG-WHOIS conflicts] Draft preliminary report

[Heineman, Ashley]

I find it highly inappropriate to side step the governmental advisors at ICANN.  Perhaps we could get on their agenda for an upcoming meeting and have an exchange of views on this subject. IE: whether or not the GAC reps are capable to speak for their governments positions.

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ON the other hand, we could ask for a resolution from the International
Conference of Data Protection Supervisors.  Faster and more reliable.
Stephanie PErrin

On 2015-09-11 10:18, Jamie Hedlund wrote:
> That’s not exactly what I meant. GAC members come from various ministries.
> Most of them coordinate with other ministries back in Capitol. Few if any
> are allowed to issue statements on any subject outside their ministry
> without coordination across their government. By coordinating with the
> relevant ministry or agency the GAC member should be able to provide a
> statement. Thanks.
>
> Best,
> Jamie
>
> Jamie Hedlund
> VP, Strategic Programs
> Global Domains Division
> ICANN
> +1.202.374.3969 (m)
> +1.202.570.7125 (d)
> jamie.hedlund at icann.org
>
>
>
>
> On 9/11/15, 10:03, "Luc SEUFER" <lseufer at dclgroup.eu> wrote:
>
>> That’s exactly what I am afraid of. If the GAC members don’t even have
>> enough powers to state that they are/aren’t entitled to provide the
>> statements foreseen under the alternative trigger, I trust we can safely
>> make this bullet point optional.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Luc
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 11 Sep 2015, at 15:24, Jamie Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Luc,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your comments. Happy to clarify the second bullet as you
>>> suggest. As for asking the GAC whether each member is entitled to issue
>>> support for a request, I suspect we may never get an answer. Their
>>> ³authorities² vary widely depending on which part of the government they
>>> represent. But it seems safe to assume that if they don¹t have explicit
>>> authority, they would be empowered to seek it from the relevant agency
>>> within their government.
>>>
>>> Make sense?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Jamie
>>>
>>> Jamie Hedlund
>>> VP, Strategic Programs
>>> Global Domains Division
>>> ICANN
>>> +1.202.374.3969 (m)
>>> +1.202.570.7125 (d)
>>> jamie.hedlund at icann.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/11/15, 05:04, "Luc SEUFER" <lseufer at dclgroup.eu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jamie,
>>>>
>>>> Reading the Contracted Party Request Trigger.
>>>>
>>>> The 2nd bullet point should be rewritten so that it is clear that
>>>> ³affected parties² refer to those contracted parties which local laws
>>>> conflict with a WHOIS obligation.
>>>>
>>>> I am afraid it could be understood as an obligation to seek written
>>>> support from all contracted parties.
>>>>
>>>> And regarding the written support or non-objection from the GAC member.
>>>> Could we as a semi-WG ask the GAC whether they are all entitled to
>>>> issue
>>>> such support?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Luc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 09 Sep 2015, at 23:30, Jamie Hedlund
>>>> <jamie.hedlund at icann.org<mailto:jamie.hedlund at icann.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> Attached please find the current draft preliminary report for your
>>>> consideration. As discussed on the call, IAG members would have one
>>>> week
>>>> to propose any changes including the addition of minority statements.
>>>> Please submit your edits no later than 23:59 UTC on 17 September 2015.
>>>> ICANN will then seek comment on the document on 24 September 2015.
>>>>
>>>> Please note some of the larger changes in the document: first, I
>>>> removed
>>>> all references to ³consensus.² My colleagues in policy support remind
>>>> me
>>>> that consensus only applies after public comment is taken into account.
>>>> Second, I added James¹s full proposal to a new Appendix 2. Finally, I
>>>> cleaned up the formatting.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you again for your input and participation. Please let me know if
>>>> you have any questions or concerns about the draft.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Jamie
>>>>
>>>> Jamie Hedlund
>>>> VP, Strategic Programs
>>>> Global Domains Division
>>>> ICANN
>>>> +1.202.374.3969 (m)
>>>> +1.202.570.7125 (d)
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