[WP2] Lawyers markup of IRP checklist

Greg Shatan gregshatanipc at gmail.com
Thu Jul 30 15:31:06 UTC 2015


Which are....?

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Burr, Becky <Becky.Burr at neustar.biz>
wrote:

>   I believe that the ASO concluded it had sufficient tools
>
>  J. Beckwith Burr
>
> *Neustar, Inc. /* Deputy General Counsel and Chief Privacy Officer
>
> 1775 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20006
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> Office: + 1.202.533.2932  Mobile:  +1.202.352.6367  /
> becky.burr at neustar.biz / www.neustar.biz
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>   From: Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 11:21 AM
> To: Becky Burr <becky.burr at neustar.biz>
> Cc: Izumi Okutani <izumi at nic.ad.jp>, "wp2 at icann.org" <wp2 at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [WP2] Lawyers markup of IRP checklist
>
>   What is the proper forum for these numbers related disputes (not that I
> can think of a basis for one right now)?  Particularly if it is the Board
> action that is being disputed?  Is there a numbers IRP somewhere, or is
> this a "go directly to court" scenario?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Burr, Becky <Becky.Burr at neustar.biz>
> wrote:
>
>> Will do Izumi
>>
>> J. Beckwith Burr
>> Neustar, Inc. / Deputy General Counsel and Chief Privacy Officer
>> 1775 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20006
>> Office: + 1.202.533.2932  Mobile:  +1.202.352.6367  /
>> becky.burr at neustar.biz / www.neustar.biz
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> On 7/30/15, 10:52 AM, "Izumi Okutani" <izumi at nic.ad.jp> wrote:
>>
>> >Becky,
>> >
>> >
>> >As a follow up from Paris and my previous e-mail -
>> >
>> >May I request to add a language in the IRP to keep the number resources
>> >related issues to be out of scope of the IRP?
>> >I recall this was agreed in Paris and would be helpful to have it
>> >reflected in the IRP document.
>> >
>> >> 1. Scope of Authority
>> >> The role of the Independent Review Process (IRP) will be to:
>> >> - Determine whether ICANN has acted (or has failed to act) in violation
>> >>of its Bylaws; and
>> >> - Hearing claims involving rights of the Sole Member under the Bylaws
>> >>(subject to voting thresholds)
>> >>
>> >> [Add]
>> >> - Disputes related to Internet number resources are out of scope of the
>> >>IRP.
>> >
>> >
>> >I would like to suggest the same text for reconsideration para 07.
>> >
>> >
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>> >CURRENT:
>> >In case of including the global number resources policy in its scope,
>> >further considerations
>> >should be made of its implications. The bottom up policy development
>> >process and its
>> >forum for the number resources is outside the ICANN, even though the
>> >ICANN Board
>> >approves its global policies, and the same mechanisms as the names
>> >related policies may
>> >not be applicable
>> >
>> >SUGGESTED:
>> >Disputes related to Internet number resources are out of scope of the
>> IRP.
>> >
>> >
>> >Thanks for all your work!
>> >
>> >
>> >Izumi on behalf of the ASO reps
>> >
>> >On 2015/07/30 22:53, Burr, Becky wrote:
>> >> Ok, do you object to publishing the checklist as a highlights document?
>> >>
>> >> J. Beckwith Burr
>> >> Neustar, Inc. / Deputy General Counsel and Chief Privacy Officer
>> >> 1775 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20006
>> >> Office: + 1.202.533.2932  Mobile:  +1.202.352.6367  /
>> >> becky.burr at neustar.biz / www.neustar.biz
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 7/30/15, 8:24 AM, "Malcolm Hutty" <malcolm at linx.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Becky,
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm surprised to see the lawyers working on this "Checklist", surely
>> >>> this document was just a working document, and not intended for
>> >>> inclusion in the final report?
>> >>>
>> >>> Do I mistake your intention?
>> >>>
>> >>> I have just seen the wiki page for building the final report
>> >>>
>> >>>
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>> >>> This also lists this checklist as the WP2's input to the report on the
>> >>> IRP.
>> >>>
>> >>> I was hoping to see the attached draft bylaws "28 July Independent
>> >>> Review Bylaw BB compilation" (or any successor draft) listed there
>> >>> instead.
>> >>>
>> >>> Please could you confirm that that is your intention?
>> >>>
>> >>> Could you please submit this document and ask the staff to update this
>> >>> wiki asap?
>> >>>
>> >>> We do not want people to start challenging our input to the final
>> paper
>> >>> on the grounds it hasn't been made available to the CCWG plenary in
>> >>>time.
>> >>>
>> >>> For the record, I do not regard the Checklist document as complete,
>> >>> either in terms of being comprehensive as to the issues we have
>> >>> addressed in the other document, nor in terms of containing sufficient
>> >>> detail.
>> >>>
>> >>> We're getting very close to the Chair's intended freeze date, and not
>> >>> having text visibly submitted, and having the lawyer's working on
>> >>> something else, is making me nervous. We don't have the time to allow
>> >>> misunderstandings to develop at this stage.
>> >>>
>> >>> Malcolm.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 30/07/2015 12:24, Burr, Becky wrote:
>> >>>> I have gone through the changes proposed by counsel.  Most of them
>> are
>> >>>> wording changes and not objectionable from my perspective.  There is
>> >>>>one
>> >>>> substantive addition on independence introduced in the qualifications
>> >>>> section.  We have not discussed this and I think it is addressed in
>> >>>>the
>> >>>> current checklist, so I propose not to take that change.  Any other
>> >>>> thoughts on this?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> J. Beckwith Burr
>> >>>>
>> >>>> *Neustar, Inc. /* Deputy General Counsel and Chief Privacy Officer
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 1775 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20006
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Office: + 1.202.533.2932  Mobile:
>> >>>> +1.202.352.6367  / becky.burr at neustar.biz
>> >>>> <mailto:becky.burr at neustar.biz> / www.neustar.biz
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