[Wp4] Fwd: Re: [] Variety of formulation for Human Rights bylaw that were made. - corrected

Greg Shatan gregshatanipc at gmail.com
Thu Aug 6 19:44:46 UTC 2015


Avri,

You are certainly entitled to express yourself, and I look forward to a
robust and productive discussion.  Again, there is no intention to
obfuscate.  The intention is to clarify, which I believe will build a
stronger consensus.

Greg

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Freedom of expression allows me to object to the statements you make.
> I asked nicely, with a please even.  I did not attempt to regulate you
> speech.
>
> I am objecting to what I perceive to be tactics to obfuscate and make
> things seem hidden and nefarious.
> That too is freedom of expression.
>
> avri
>
>
> On 06-Aug-15 15:34, Greg Shatan wrote:
> > I really don't think using a 500 year old colloquialism "cheapens the
> > discussion."  I also find it ironic to find this admonition in a
> > discussion about, inter alia, freedom of expression.  Political
> > correctness, trigger words, and other such stuff are a not
> > inconsequential threat to freedom of expression and freedom of ideas
> > -- starting with a kernel of good intentions, and then becoming quite
> > damaging....
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org
> > <mailto:avri at acm.org>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >     On 06-Aug-15 14:28, Greg Shatan wrote:
> >     > Otherwise, we are just buying a pig in a poke.
> >
> >
> >     I really have trouble with such a reference to human rights.
> >     Please do
> >     not cheapen this discussion.
> >
> >     avri
> >
> >
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