[Wp4] Fwd: Re: [] Variety of formulation for Human Rights bylaw that were made. - corrected

[Dr Eberhard W Lisse]

Avri,

same tactics as usual.

Not unexpected.


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> On Aug 6, 2015, at 20:44, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Avri,
> 
> You are certainly entitled to express yourself, and I look forward to a robust and productive discussion.  Again, there is no intention to obfuscate.  The intention is to clarify, which I believe will build a stronger consensus.
> 
> Greg
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Freedom of expression allows me to object to the statements you make.
>> I asked nicely, with a please even.  I did not attempt to regulate you
>> speech.
>> 
>> I am objecting to what I perceive to be tactics to obfuscate and make
>> things seem hidden and nefarious.
>> That too is freedom of expression.
>> 
>> avri
>> 
>> 
>> On 06-Aug-15 15:34, Greg Shatan wrote:
>> > I really don't think using a 500 year old colloquialism "cheapens the
>> > discussion."  I also find it ironic to find this admonition in a
>> > discussion about, inter alia, freedom of expression.  Political
>> > correctness, trigger words, and other such stuff are a not
>> > inconsequential threat to freedom of expression and freedom of ideas
>> > -- starting with a kernel of good intentions, and then becoming quite
>> > damaging....
>> >
>> > On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org
>> > <mailto:avri at acm.org>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >     On 06-Aug-15 14:28, Greg Shatan wrote:
>> >     > Otherwise, we are just buying a pig in a poke.
>> >
>> >
>> >     I really have trouble with such a reference to human rights.
>> >     Please do
>> >     not cheapen this discussion.
>> >
>> >     avri
>> >
>> >
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