[Wp4] Fwd: Re: [] Variety of formulation for Human Rights bylaw that were made. - corrected

[Nigel Roberts]

You really know you've made it into the consciousness politic when 
someone does a parody Twitter feed for you!!


On 08/06/2015 09:17 PM, Greg Shatan wrote:
> Nope.  Nothing hidden and nefarious here.  I'll leave that to this guy:
> Greg Satan Twitter Page <https://twitter.com/GregShatan>
>
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na
> <mailto:el at lisse.na>> wrote:
>
>     Avri,
>
>     same tactics as usual.
>
>     Not unexpected.
>
>
>     el
>
>     --
>     Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
>
>     On Aug 6, 2015, at 20:44, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com
>     <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>>     Avri,
>>
>>     You are certainly entitled to express yourself, and I look forward
>>     to a robust and productive discussion.  Again, there is no
>>     intention to obfuscate.  The intention is to clarify, which I
>>     believe will build a stronger consensus.
>>
>>     Greg
>>
>>     On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org
>>     <mailto:avri at acm.org>> wrote:
>>
>>         Hi,
>>
>>         Freedom of expression allows me to object to the statements
>>         you make.
>>         I asked nicely, with a please even.  I did not attempt to
>>         regulate you
>>         speech.
>>
>>         I am objecting to what I perceive to be tactics to obfuscate
>>         and make
>>         things seem hidden and nefarious.
>>         That too is freedom of expression.
>>
>>         avri
>>
>>
>>         On 06-Aug-15 15:34, Greg Shatan wrote:
>>         > I really don't think using a 500 year old colloquialism "cheapens the
>>         > discussion."  I also find it ironic to find this admonition in a
>>         > discussion about, inter alia, freedom of expression.  Political
>>         > correctness, trigger words, and other such stuff are a not
>>         > inconsequential threat to freedom of expression and freedom of ideas
>>         > -- starting with a kernel of good intentions, and then becoming quite
>>         > damaging....
>>         >
>>         > On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org <mailto:avri at acm.org>
>>         > <mailto:avri at acm.org <mailto:avri at acm.org>>> wrote:
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >     On 06-Aug-15 14:28, Greg Shatan wrote:
>>         >     > Otherwise, we are just buying a pig in a poke.
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >     I really have trouble with such a reference to human rights.
>>         >     Please do
>>         >     not cheapen this discussion.
>>         >
>>         >     avri
>>         >
>>         >
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