[Wp4] Discrete issue: Which bylaws formulation

[Nigel Roberts]

I object to the inclusion of "will be committed to" as it waters down 
human rigths.

"will respect" please.


On 12/10/15 23:10, Matthew Shears wrote:
> So if one were to draw an "option" for the CCWG to consider from the WP
> poll (Q1 where there was greatest Delta between yes and no) it would be
> a reference to human rights in the bylaws without any reference to a
> particular document.
>
> That seems to correlate largely with option 2 in the proposal which also
> had the greatest support:
>
> /Within its mission and in it operations, ICANN will be committed to
> respect internationally recognized fundamental human rights./
>
>
> If so does that suggest that one could consider the WP poll an indicator
> of additional support for that option?  (Although the words
> "internationally" and "fundamental" still cause me indigestion.)
>
> Matthew
>
> On 12/10/2015 22:52, Avri Doria wrote:
>>
>> On 12-Oct-15 17:41, Matthew Shears wrote:
>>> I have to ask - how much actual support did the last two options get?hi,
>> According to the results listed by Leon:
>>
>>> Q1 Yes  -  5
>>>       No   -  18
>>> Q2 Yes  -  11
>>>       No   -  12
>>> Q3 None or NA  -  13
>>>       Not Sure  -  3
>>
>> specific recommendations
>>
>> 2 for just Ruggie
>> 2  for UDHR + Ruggie
>> 6 for UDHR, ICCPR, ICESCR
>>
>>>    International bill of human rights , Regional and Domestic
>>> commitments to same.
>>> ·        my read is if one answers 1 and 2 with No then 3 is
>>> irrelevant.   I note that some others have, however, put in the UN
>>> Guiding Principles on Business and Human Rights for 3 even though they
>>> have said no to 1 and 2.
>>>
>>>     that is be guided by the Guiding Principles on business and human
>>> rights
>>> ·        The UDHR is the only instrument that is of sufficient
>>> universality.
>>> ·        The UDHR is the only instrument that is of sufficient
>>> universality.
>>> ·        UDHR & UN Guiding Principles on Business and Human Rights
>>> ·        UDHR & UN Guiding Principles on Business and Human Rights
>>> ·        UDHR, ICCPR, ICESCR
>>> ·        UDHR, ICCPR, ICESCR
>>> ·        UDHR, ICCPR, ICESCR
>>> ·        UDHR, ICCPR, ICESCR
>>> ·        UDHR, ICCPR, ICESCR
>>> ·        UN Guiding Principles on Business and Human Rights
>>>
>>
>>
>>> And what about highlighting the results for the 2 options in the
>>> proposal itself?
>>>
>>> Matthew
>>>
>>> On 12/10/2015 20:30, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Based on the outcome of the poll, I wonder why option 2 through to 4
>>>> will be applicable anymore. I quote below just incase:
>>>>
>>>> "....In brief, the WP has expressed in a vast majority that No
>>>> reference to a specific document should be included in the suggested
>>>> bylaw text."
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my Asus Zenfone2
>>>> Kindly excuse brevity and typos.
>>>>
>>>> On 12 Oct 2015 20:24, "Nigel Roberts" <nigel at channelisles.net
>>>> <mailto:nigel at channelisles.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      I like this approach.
>>>>
>>>>      The wording can be made more concise and less ambgiuous as
>>>> follows.
>>>>
>>>>      Here are the four alternatices.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      1.       Within its mission and in its operations, ICANN will
>>>>      respect internationally recognized human rights.
>>>>
>>>>      2.      Within its mission and in its operations, ICANN will
>>>>      respect the internationally recognized human rights set out in
>>>>      the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
>>>>
>>>>      3.      Within its mission and in its operations, ICANN will
>>>>      respect the internationally recognized human rights set out in
>>>>      the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the International
>>>>      Covenant on Cultural and Political Rights and the International
>>>>      Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights.
>>>>
>>>>      4.       Within its mission and in its operations, ICANN will
>>>>      respect the internationally recognized human rights set out in
>>>>      the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the International
>>>>      Covenant on Cultural and Political Rights and the International
>>>>      Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights and will carry
>>>>      out its work guided by the UN Guiding Principles on Business and
>>>>      Human Rights.
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