[Ws2-diversity] Existing Gender and Regional Diversity Data at ICANN

Fri Dec 23 01:05:31 UTC 2016

Hi

A few observations about our last meeting and the regional perspective.

When considering diversity, regional groupings may not be the safest path
for representation of members. Indeed ICANN has a division in regions which
has its own issues and resulted from a collective work in a WG.

But if, for accountability purposes, one wants to map if members see ICANN
as somewhere where there is geographical/regional balance, the current
division may still not be enough since a member can not find her/himself
adequately represented either by their country or region. Same happens, for
instance, with ISOC chapters which are very atomized in some regions and in
others aren't.
Another issue is those groups are not represented by geopolitical borders
such as refugees, rural workers etc.

In the last meeting the idea of streamlining the data collection gained
some support.
Less open-ended questions and more concrete data, like a survey could bring
interesting results.
A simple question: "do you feel your region is well represented in ICANN?"
can result in a variation of answers which would be very interesting.

I welcome the efforts of the staff who has collected data before to send us
data and probably talk more about the process of data collection.
Also, data on special assistance requests could be very enlightening.

I understand there are many ideas popping and a need to have a say but I
guess now maybe we should really focus on the questionnaire rebuild for
next steps.

Until when can the questionnaire and the strawman receive comments?
Apologies if this was posted and I missed it.

Thank you

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Adebunmi AKINBO <akinbo.adebunmi at gmail.com
> wrote:

> Hi Chair,
> I was left on an indefinite mute during the meeting session.
> While the idea of inviting the ICANN Staff sounds great,
> can we have a detailed map and infographics of indices
> across nationality, sex, language, religion, continent and age,
> please.
>
> It helps to define our diverse ICANN structure is at the moment.
>
> Thanks.
> -Akinbo.
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 7:57 AM, Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> I fully support the points raised by Pam. This highlights the risks
>> associated with the creation of categories, which are not always a good
>> proxy to some aspects of diversity. Since it is practically impossible to
>> rely on a very large number of similar definitions for categories, one way
>> to mitigate this risk is to provide the datasets in an “Open Data”(
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_data) format.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Mathieu
>>
>>
>>
>> *De :* Pam Little [mailto:pam.little at zodiac-corp.com]
>> *Envoyé :* mardi 20 décembre 2016 23:02
>> *À :* 'Mathieu Weill'; ws2-diversity at icann.org
>> *Cc :* 'MSSI Secretariat'; 'Ergys Ramaj'
>> *Objet :* RE: [Ws2-diversity] Existing Gender and Regional Diversity
>> Data at ICANN
>>
>>
>>
>> While these additional data points are welcome, I would like to bring to
>> this group’s attention the Final Report of the recent GSNO Review (
>> https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2-2015-09-15-en).
>>
>>
>>
>> Specifically, the reports:
>>
>> ·         cautions that geographic diversity is not a proxy for cultural
>> diversity  (pp 11 and 114).
>>
>> ·         questions whether, from a cultural perspective, it is
>> appropriate to include Australia and New Zealand as part of the Asia
>> Pacific region (pp 115-116).
>>
>>
>>
>> The report points out, as at July 2013, people from Asia made up 48% of
>> total Internet users but only 4% of GNSO Council positions came from Asia (
>> p.116).
>>
>>
>>
>> Page 114
>>
>> 9.4.1
>>
>> Geographic Diversity
>>
>> It is not possible to be definitive about the geographic diversity of the
>> membership of the GNSO, firstly because ICANN does not collect
>> comprehensive statistics on geographic (or gender and cultural) diversity
>> of its community. It does collect geographic diversity information, but
>> we consider the criterion to be flawed, since people can state their
>> place of residence regardless of their ethnicity or actual affinity (for
>> example, an Australian national living in Nigeria could choose to be
>> recorded as a member from Africa). Secondly, Constituency and SG membership
>> consists in many cases of organisations and/or individuals. Organisations
>> may themselves be based in one region but consist of individuals from many.
>> We believe, as explained further below, that CANN’s geographic regions are
>> a poor measure of cultural or ethnic diversity.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Pages 115 & 116
>>
>> 9.4.2
>>
>> Cultural Diversity
>>
>> …
>>
>> Under ICANN’s current definition, Asia Pacific includes Australia and
>> New Zealand which are in general culturally more similar to North America
>> and parts of Europe than to most Asian cultures. …
>>
>>
>>
>> It is my understanding that ICANN’s current geographical regions are
>> inconsistent with international norms. However, the ICANN Geographic
>> Regions Review Working Group (see Final Report at
>> http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-22jun13-en.htm)
>> has not proposed any change to regional designation. As former ICANN CEO,
>> Dr. Paul Twomey laments (http://mm.icann.org/pipermail
>> /wp3/2015-July/000015.html):
>>
>>
>>
>> “There was no real discussion of the global strategic challenges facing
>> ICANN in a world where Internet activity and power is shifting dramatically
>> away from the hubs of the late 1990s which underlie ICANN's present
>> structures.”
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ws2-diversity-bounces at icann.org [mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@
>> icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Mathieu Weill
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:27 AM
>> *To:* Ergys Ramaj
>> *Cc:* MSSI Secretariat; ws2-diversity at icann.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ws2-diversity] Existing Gender and Regional Diversity
>> Data at ICANN
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Ergys, great work, I think this really demonstrates that a
>> recommendation from this group to maintain and track such data is realistic
>> and accessible.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Mathieu
>>
>>
>>
>> *De :* Ergys Ramaj [mailto:ergys.ramaj at icann.org <ergys.ramaj at icann.org>]
>>
>> *Envoyé :* mardi 20 décembre 2016 14:07
>> *À :* Mathieu Weill
>> *Cc :* Rafik Dammak; ws2-diversity at icann.org; MSSI Secretariat
>> *Objet :* Re: [Ws2-diversity] Existing Gender and Regional Diversity
>> Data at ICANN
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Mathieu,
>>
>>
>>
>> The SO/AC leadership data includes:
>>
>>
>>
>> ASO Council Chair and Vice Chairs, Address Council Members, ccNSO Council
>> Chairs and Vice Chairs, ccNSO Council Members, GNSO Council Chair and Vice
>> Chairs, GNSO Council Members, ALAC Leadership Team, ALAC Members, GAC
>> Leadership Team, RSSAC Chairs, SSAC Chair and Vice Chair, AFRALO
>> Leadership, APRALO Leadership, EURALO Leadership, LACRALO Leadership,
>> NARALO Leadership, Registries Stakeholder Group Executive Committee,
>> Registrars Stakeholder Group Executive Committee, Commercial Stakeholder
>> Group Executive Committee, Non- Commercial Stakeholder Group Executive
>> Committee, Business Constituency Executive Committee, Intellectual Property
>> Constituency Executive Committee, Internet Service Providers and
>> Connectivity Providers Constituency Executive Committees, Non-Commercial
>> Users Constituency Executive Committee, and Not-for-Profit Operational
>> Concerns Constituency Executive Committee.
>>
>>
>>
>> More generally and to the data collection method question you pose,
>> different groups within ICANN organization collect data related to their
>> function. E.g. the meetings team on ICANN meetings, Human Resources on
>> personnel, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> To get a full picture, we'd reached out to      the respective teams and
>> collated the information. As noted on the deck, data points are identified
>> using the most appropriate resources available, which are often based on
>> self-reporting or selection.
>>
>>
>>
>> The question on having additional data that includes diversity markers
>> other than gender and region is a bit trickier as different groups capture
>> different elements.
>>
>>
>>
>> Happy to discuss and update the slides with an appendix that includes a
>> breakdown for SO/AC leadership and any other group, as appropriate.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Ergys
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 20, 2016, at 5:52 AM, Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Rafik,
>>
>>
>>
>> It is very encouraging to see this new publication from ICANN. Indeed it
>> would be great to invite the DPRD to a call to fully understand the
>> figures, how they were collected and whether there is room for further
>> breakdowns.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would be interested, for instance, to understand the definition used
>> for “ICANN leadership”.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Mathieu
>>
>>
>>
>> *De :* ws2-diversity-bounces at icann.org [mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@
>> icann.org <ws2-diversity-bounces at icann.org>] *De la part de* Rafik Dammak
>> *Envoyé :* mardi 20 décembre 2016 02:22
>> *À :* ws2-diversity at icann.org
>> *Cc :* MSSI Secretariat
>> *Objet :* [Ws2-diversity] Existing Gender and Regional Diversity Data at
>> ICANN
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> please find attached this document shared by Development and Public
>> Responsibility Department (DPRD) including several diversity data they
>> collected.
>>
>> I think we can count on DPRD as resource for our subgroup.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>>
>> Rafik
>>
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