[Ws2-diversity] Draft 01 Diversity Report

Fri Feb 17 12:46:56 UTC 2017

Hi all,

Just a quick note to say that I also support Avri's point, as well as the
many excellent comments made by Corinne in the Google doc. Although Corinne
will not be able to participate in this afternoon's call, I hope we will
consider the issues that she raised in the document.

Look forward to more discussion in the call,

Rachel

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Corinne Cath <corinnecath at gmail.com> wrote:

> I fully support all that Avri just said and hope we can update the text
> accordingly.
>
> Best,
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 06:09 Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I agree with Avri's rationale as well. However in order not to have an
>> unending assessment process. I suggest slightly modifying Avri's text to:
>>
>> Ensuring that ICANN is open to diverse participation is essential to
>> fulfilling the range of skills and experience necessary for ICANN. If an
>> original assessment of candidates is not sufficiently diverse to fulfill
>> the skill, experience and diversity requirements necessary, then efforts
>> need to be redoubled until diversity is achieved *as much as possible*.
>>
>> Regards
>> Sent from my LG G4
>> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>>
>> On Feb 17, 2017 1:30 AM, "avri doria" <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>>
>> hi,
>>
>> Apologies for missing some meetings lately, I have let myself become
>> overloaded.
>>
>>
>> On 15-Feb-17 16:26, Malcolm Hutty wrote:
>> > I suggest we keep the existing text, but add the following on the end
>> of it:
>> >
>> > "Ensuring that ICANN is open to diverse participation will tend to
>> > broaden the range of skills and experience available, but rigid
>> > application of diversity requirements for selection could in some cases
>> > have the opposite effect, and this should be avoided."
>>
>> I would havea  severe problem with this oppositional statement.  It
>> ignores the fact that diversity is a component of skill and experience.
>> Diverse experience can only be obtained through cultural diversity -
>> people or organizations that are steeped in one culture, especially a
>> dominant culture, do not generally understand the full scope of a
>> problem and do not bring a full or appropriate set of skills and
>> experience, no matter how clever they may be.  Proper solutions cannot
>> be found without diversity
>>
>> Likewise the skill often needed is cross cultural sensitivity which
>> cannot be achieved without full scope of diversity.
>>
>> The set {skill, experience, diversity} cannot be satisfied without full
>> consideration of the full set. Yes one needs skill and experience, but
>> needs to obtain it from a diverse set of actors, becue a non diverse set
>> will not have the necessary skills and experience in any case.  If by
>> rigid you mean living without it, then I will argue for rigid
>> application of diversity criteria.  I would go so far as to say that any
>> selection process that does not satisfy diversity has failed and does
>> not meet the conditions for global accountability.
>>
>> On 16-Feb-17 16:13, Malcolm Hutty wrote:
>> > "Ensuring that ICANN is open to diverse participation will tend to
>> > broaden the range of skills and experience available, but rigid
>> > application of diversity requirements for selection could in some cases
>> > have the opposite effect, and this should be avoided."
>>
>> I cannot accept this formulation either.  There should not be any
>> statement disparaging the absolute necessity for diversity in every and
>> all ICANN processes. the presumption that is unstated is the diversity
>> means a less skilled set of applicnts and I find this to be very
>> problematic.
>>
>> On 16-Feb-17 16:30, Mathieu Weill wrote:
>> > Thank you for the feedbacks, and for the various suggestions.
>> >
>> > Picking up on your proposal Malcolm, how about :
>> >
>> > "Ensuring that ICANN is open to diverse participation will tend to
>> broaden
>> > the range of skills and experience available, but rigid application of
>> > diversity requirements for selection could in some cases have the
>> opposite
>> > effect, and this unintended consequence *needs to be carefully
>> assessed*."
>> > (instead of "avoided").
>>
>> Even this goes to far and leaves it as acceptable to avoid diversity.
>> Someone can always try to spin, and will, the argument and say, we have
>> good people even if they aren't diverse and we are unable to satisfy
>> diversity.  In this case the response should be to try harder, not throw
>> up one's hands and say oh well diversity is too hard, do not be so rigid.
>> ICANN is a global organization that is accountable to a diverse world.
>> An accountablty that cannot be met without real diversity.
>>
>> For me this meets the requirement of a die in the ditch position.
>>
>> I would prefer something like:
>>
>> Ensuring that ICANN is open to diverse participation is essential to
>> fulfilling
>> the range of skills and experience necessary for ICANN. If an original
>> assessment of candidates is not sufficiently diverse to fulfill the skill,
>> experience and diversity requirements necessary, then efforts need to be
>> redoubled until diversity is achieved.
>>
>> No more shrugging and saying: diversity was hard therefore we picked all
>> men from WEOG. This is a failure for ICANN and _MUST_ not be accepted by
>> this group, WS2 or ICANN.
>>
>> thanks
>> avri
>>
>>
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