[Ws2-diversity] Draft 01 Diversity Report

Corinne Cath corinnecath at gmail.com
Fri Feb 17 07:58:32 UTC 2017


I fully support all that Avri just said and hope we can update the text
accordingly.

Best,

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 06:09 Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I agree with Avri's rationale as well. However in order not to have an
> unending assessment process. I suggest slightly modifying Avri's text to:
>
> Ensuring that ICANN is open to diverse participation is essential to
> fulfilling the range of skills and experience necessary for ICANN. If an
> original assessment of candidates is not sufficiently diverse to fulfill
> the skill, experience and diversity requirements necessary, then efforts
> need to be redoubled until diversity is achieved *as much as possible*.
>
> Regards
> Sent from my LG G4
> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>
> On Feb 17, 2017 1:30 AM, "avri doria" <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>
> hi,
>
> Apologies for missing some meetings lately, I have let myself become
> overloaded.
>
>
> On 15-Feb-17 16:26, Malcolm Hutty wrote:
> > I suggest we keep the existing text, but add the following on the end of
> it:
> >
> > "Ensuring that ICANN is open to diverse participation will tend to
> > broaden the range of skills and experience available, but rigid
> > application of diversity requirements for selection could in some cases
> > have the opposite effect, and this should be avoided."
>
> I would havea  severe problem with this oppositional statement.  It
> ignores the fact that diversity is a component of skill and experience.
> Diverse experience can only be obtained through cultural diversity -
> people or organizations that are steeped in one culture, especially a
> dominant culture, do not generally understand the full scope of a
> problem and do not bring a full or appropriate set of skills and
> experience, no matter how clever they may be.  Proper solutions cannot
> be found without diversity
>
> Likewise the skill often needed is cross cultural sensitivity which
> cannot be achieved without full scope of diversity.
>
> The set {skill, experience, diversity} cannot be satisfied without full
> consideration of the full set. Yes one needs skill and experience, but
> needs to obtain it from a diverse set of actors, becue a non diverse set
> will not have the necessary skills and experience in any case.  If by
> rigid you mean living without it, then I will argue for rigid
> application of diversity criteria.  I would go so far as to say that any
> selection process that does not satisfy diversity has failed and does
> not meet the conditions for global accountability.
>
> On 16-Feb-17 16:13, Malcolm Hutty wrote:
> > "Ensuring that ICANN is open to diverse participation will tend to
> > broaden the range of skills and experience available, but rigid
> > application of diversity requirements for selection could in some cases
> > have the opposite effect, and this should be avoided."
>
> I cannot accept this formulation either.  There should not be any
> statement disparaging the absolute necessity for diversity in every and
> all ICANN processes. the presumption that is unstated is the diversity
> means a less skilled set of applicnts and I find this to be very
> problematic.
>
> On 16-Feb-17 16:30, Mathieu Weill wrote:
> > Thank you for the feedbacks, and for the various suggestions.
> >
> > Picking up on your proposal Malcolm, how about :
> >
> > "Ensuring that ICANN is open to diverse participation will tend to
> broaden
> > the range of skills and experience available, but rigid application of
> > diversity requirements for selection could in some cases have the
> opposite
> > effect, and this unintended consequence *needs to be carefully
> assessed*."
> > (instead of "avoided").
>
> Even this goes to far and leaves it as acceptable to avoid diversity.
> Someone can always try to spin, and will, the argument and say, we have
> good people even if they aren't diverse and we are unable to satisfy
> diversity.  In this case the response should be to try harder, not throw
> up one's hands and say oh well diversity is too hard, do not be so rigid.
> ICANN is a global organization that is accountable to a diverse world.
> An accountablty that cannot be met without real diversity.
>
> For me this meets the requirement of a die in the ditch position.
>
> I would prefer something like:
>
> Ensuring that ICANN is open to diverse participation is essential to
> fulfilling
> the range of skills and experience necessary for ICANN. If an original
> assessment of candidates is not sufficiently diverse to fulfill the skill,
> experience and diversity requirements necessary, then efforts need to be
> redoubled until diversity is achieved.
>
> No more shrugging and saying: diversity was hard therefore we picked all
> men from WEOG. This is a failure for ICANN and _MUST_ not be accepted by
> this group, WS2 or ICANN.
>
> thanks
> avri
>
>
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