[Ws2-hr] When should ICANN uphold human rights?

Sun Sep 4 19:07:05 UTC 2016

Dear All,
I am sure whether these questions to be raised with Human Rights Group
,they are rather to be raised either to CCWG or to the Lawyers or to any
entity other than Sub Group dealing with Human rights.
They may raise these questions internally but not externally .
Moreover, as I said to PAUL ,these two questions need to be further
elaborated and explored before being submitted to other group
Regards
Kavouss

2016-09-04 20:12 GMT+02:00 Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn>:

> Dear all,
>
> I agree with Paul that among the main questions for us to come up with a
> Frame of Interpretation of the Human Rights in the ICANN mission would be:
>
>
>    -        What substance we see in the phrase human rights inside ICANN
>    Mission?
>    -        When, if ever, ICANN should give that substance (whatever it
>    may be) effect?
>
>  I can’t say they are the only meaningful questions since there will be
> subsequent questions. But let’s start with the first question: I think that
> to address it, we may begin by giving practical easy cases.
>
> The protection of the registrant data is one of the most obvious case of
> human right that falls in the ICANN mission. This may also affect the ICANN
> contract with registries/registrars
>
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> Le 4 sept. 2016 à 18:24, Paul Rosenzweig <paul.rosenzweig@
> redbranchconsulting.com> a écrit :
>
> Dear Farzaneh
>
> Of course your questions are meaningful.  Indeed, the ONLY two meaningful
> questions in this discussion are a) what substance we see in the phrase
> human rights? And b) When, if ever, ICANN should give that substance
> (whatever it may be) effect?
>
> Your questions clearly go to the later of these two issues.  Members of
> the group may disagree on the answers we reach, but you’re asking questions
> that have real meaning – whatever anyone may say to the contrary.
>
> Paul
>
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> *From:* ws2-hr-bounces at icann.org [mailto:ws2-hr-bounces at icann.org
> <ws2-hr-bounces at icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *farzaneh badii
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 4, 2016 11:56 AM
> *To:* Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* ws2-hr at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Ws2-hr] When should ICANN uphold human rights?
>
> Calling something "not meaningful" is very easy. But it does not devalue
> its merits, fortunately.  Please provide a rationale for why the questions
> are not meaningful. I don't have to consult with the co-chairs to discuss
> the questions here. If the group feels that it is unnecessary to discuss
> these questions they can simply not respond, if they feel we should
> re-formulate them, then we can.
>
> The questions are to clarify what we mean by ICANN should not become a
> content regulator. The discussions that can arise responding to the
> question and sub-questions which I have posted can lead us towards a more
> tangible understanding of what we mean when we say ICANN should not become
> a content regulator and should not go out of its scope and mission when
> upholding human rights.
>
> Best
>
> Farzaneh
>
> On 4 September 2016 at 17:34, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
> I do not understand the meaning and purpose of these questions.
> Perhaps the author of the questions could consult other two co chairs and
> come up with meaningfull text.
> We can not send out these questions at all
> Reagrds
> Kavouss
>
> 2016-09-04 14:25 GMT+02:00 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Sorry for sending out the questions late. I wanted to provide a gist of
> what we discussed during our call and then provide the questions but
> unfortunately, we still do not have the recording. Below are some questions
> for the group to discuss:
>
>
> Considering ICANN's scope and mission, when should ICANN uphold human
> rights?
>
> - In its consideration to enter into contracts with registries and
> registrars? (for example, when they are considering a new gTLD application)
>
> - During the contractual relationship with the registries and the
> registrars by obligating the registries and registrars to enforce human
> rights?
>
>
>
>
>
> Best
>
>
> --
> Farzaneh
>
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