[Ws2-hr] When should ICANN uphold human rights?

[Nigel Roberts]

I would not be so prescriptive.

The urgency of WS1 is over, all bar the cheering, or at least we 
confidently expect it will be, on Oct 1st.

We must now take a deep breath and address the important issues from 
first principles, not in the same haste or approximation as WS1.

The sub-group system is convenient for those who have particular skills 
or interests in the sub-group motivation, but we now have time to 
consider all relevant inputs, no matter whence they shall come.

Having said that, I would encourage particpation in the HR sub-group, 
naturally.



Nigel Roberts

On 05/09/16 07:30, Arasteh wrote:
> Dear Mr. Niels  ten Oever
> Thank you very much for yr reactions
> I hope you have kindly recognized that:
> A) this issue can only be discussed at SubGroup established for FOI for Human Rights AND NOT IN THE SUBGROUP ON SO/AC ACCOUNTABILITY
> B) thank you for  the list of the reference  documents that you have made but  please kindly study the complete list discussed at Human Rights Group chaired Mr, Leon Sanchez
> You would not a complete list there.
> If you , as the One of the Co-Chair of the Group proposed a selected list , I have no problem with that but
> 1) this issue must be discussed at your group and not accountability Group and
> 2) we MUST avoid repeating discussions that we have had. Under Mr. Sanchez Group  during four or five months
> Tks
> Arasteh
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 5 Sep 2016, at 05:58, Niels ten Oever <lists at nielstenoever.net> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Great to see the discussion developing here. If I look at the questions
>> brought up by Farzane, structured by Paul (and confirmed by Tijani), I
>> see some overlap with the questions that were brought up in the draft
>> FoI we've been working on as Google Doc.
>>
>>>>   *        What substance we see in the phrase human rights inside
>>>>     ICANN Mission?
>>
>> For this question we had a preliminary answer, namely that we could
>> understand the following documents as 'Internationally recognized human
>> rights':
>>
>> UDHR: http://www.ohchr.org/EN/UDHR/Pages/Language.aspx?LangID=eng
>> ICCPR: http://www.ohchr.org/EN/ProfessionalInterest/Pages/CCPR.aspx
>> ICESCR: http://www.ohchr.org/EN/ProfessionalInterest/Pages/CESCR.aspx
>> ICERD: http://www.ohchr.org/EN/ProfessionalInterest/Pages/CERD.aspx
>> CEDAW: http://www.ohchr.org/EN/ProfessionalInterest/Pages/CEDAW.aspx
>> CRPD: http://www.un.org/disabilities/convention/conventionfull.shtml
>> DRIPS:  http://www.ohchr.org/EN/Issues/IPeoples/Pages/Declaration.aspx
>>
>> This could help narrow down that part of the discussion.
>>
>> When we look at the second question and clarification by John:
>>
>>>>   *        When, if ever, ICANN should give that substance (whatever
>>>>     it may be) effect?
>>
>> This might mean different things for:
>>
>> - the ICANN community (SOs and ACs)
>> - ICANN the organization
>> - Contracted parties
>> - policy development process
>>
>> It might helps us to differentiate or list what the different relevant
>> activities of these (or other) parts of the ICANN ecosystem and
>> understand what (potential) human rights impacts they might have?
>>
>> Just a suggestions.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Niels
>>
>> --
>> Niels ten Oever
>> Head of Digital
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