[Ws2-hr] When should ICANN uphold human rights?

[farzaneh badii]

I think there is a confusion that needs to be addressed here and hopefully
it won't need clarification anymore.

The SO/AC accountability sub-group is being mentioned here because Kavouss
is confusing this group with SO/AC accountability subgroup. This confusion
comes from the fact that I am one of the co-rapporteurs for that
sub-group.  That is a separate sub-group which focusses on SO/AC
accountability.

I am merely a participant in human rights sub-group. Which is this group! I
sent the questions to this group because during the last week session I
volunteered to send questions.


Best


Farzaneh

On 5 Sep 2016 8:31 a.m., "Arasteh" <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Mr. Niels  ten Oever
> Thank you very much for yr reactions
> I hope you have kindly recognized that:
> A) this issue can only be discussed at SubGroup established for FOI for
> Human Rights AND NOT IN THE SUBGROUP ON SO/AC ACCOUNTABILITY
> B) thank you for  the list of the reference  documents that you have made
> but  please kindly study the complete list discussed at Human Rights Group
> chaired Mr, Leon Sanchez
> You would not a complete list there.
> If you , as the One of the Co-Chair of the Group proposed a selected list
> , I have no problem with that but
> 1) this issue must be discussed at your group and not accountability Group
> and
> 2) we MUST avoid repeating discussions that we have had. Under Mr. Sanchez
> Group  during four or five months
> Tks
> Arasteh
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 5 Sep 2016, at 05:58, Niels ten Oever <lists at nielstenoever.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Great to see the discussion developing here. If I look at the questions
> > brought up by Farzane, structured by Paul (and confirmed by Tijani), I
> > see some overlap with the questions that were brought up in the draft
> > FoI we've been working on as Google Doc.
> >
> >>>  *        What substance we see in the phrase human rights inside
> >>>    ICANN Mission?
> >
> > For this question we had a preliminary answer, namely that we could
> > understand the following documents as 'Internationally recognized human
> > rights':
> >
> > UDHR: http://www.ohchr.org/EN/UDHR/Pages/Language.aspx?LangID=eng
> > ICCPR: http://www.ohchr.org/EN/ProfessionalInterest/Pages/CCPR.aspx
> > ICESCR: http://www.ohchr.org/EN/ProfessionalInterest/Pages/CESCR.aspx
> > ICERD: http://www.ohchr.org/EN/ProfessionalInterest/Pages/CERD.aspx
> > CEDAW: http://www.ohchr.org/EN/ProfessionalInterest/Pages/CEDAW.aspx
> > CRPD: http://www.un.org/disabilities/convention/conventionfull.shtml
> > DRIPS:  http://www.ohchr.org/EN/Issues/IPeoples/Pages/Declaration.aspx
> >
> > This could help narrow down that part of the discussion.
> >
> > When we look at the second question and clarification by John:
> >
> >>>  *        When, if ever, ICANN should give that substance (whatever
> >>>    it may be) effect?
> >
> > This might mean different things for:
> >
> > - the ICANN community (SOs and ACs)
> > - ICANN the organization
> > - Contracted parties
> > - policy development process
> >
> > It might helps us to differentiate or list what the different relevant
> > activities of these (or other) parts of the ICANN ecosystem and
> > understand what (potential) human rights impacts they might have?
> >
> > Just a suggestions.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Niels
> >
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