[Ws2-hr] Proposed agenda meeting 31 - August 8 19:00 UTC

Tue Aug 8 16:21:08 UTC 2017

Thanks, Bastiaan,

I don't think the reference is really that meaningless as we were trying
to get some consensus language that will mention Ruggie and provide a
hint that ICANN the org might consider them as we probably won't reach
consensus on the issue whether ICANN should commit to them (plus we
don't have mandate for this).

I also wonder where this "offer remediation" language came from. We
haven't discuss anything like this on the call, and I will strongly
object this. Again, in my opinion it's not in the mandate of this group
to tell ICANN the org whether it should offer remediation and to use
this language as it is (1) vague (2) therefore borders with enforcement
(3) related to implementation, not interpretation.

Niels, could you please tell us where the remediation is coming from as
I don't recall any suggestions like that on the last call?

Cheers,

Tanya

On 08/08/17 16:03, Bastiaan Goslings wrote:
> Thanks, Niels. 
>
> I will not be able to join this evening’s (CET) call, but I note that the proposed change (3.1) is formulated so carefully that a referral to the UNGPs here becomes meaningless in my opinion. ‘Could’, ‘consider’, ‘using a framework like’. & Where did the ‘and offer remediation’ come from btw?
>
> (Fyi I do agree with suggesting in the FoI that ICANN _the organisation_ could use the UNGPs when ‘assessing its impact on Human Rights’.)
>
> Furthermore, if this is going to be added in some form in the FoI, I take it that the ‘With regards to the UN Guiding Principles for Business and Human Rights, no consensus was reached as to their suitability for interpreting the Core Value’ part on page 6 also needs to be looked at?
>
> regards
> Bastiaan
>
>
>
>> On 8 Aug 2017, at 14:43, Niels ten Oever <lists at nielstenoever.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am very sorry, I made a mistake in the text I shared under 3.1  with
>> you before. Please use this version and please accept my apologies.
>>
>> You can also find the whole text as always in the Google doc:
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/17AvMLBfT8BmC3gUOTvaIuTuEqMbgiporUwqNymvhWhc/edit
>>
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I hope this email finds you all very well. Please find the proposed
>> agenda for the meeting of August 8, 19:00 UTC underneath:
>>
>> 1. Administrivia
>> Roll call, absentees, SoIs, etc
>>
>> 2. Review of last weeks changes
>> 2.1 addition ‘, but not limited to:’ to two footnotes
>>
>> 3. Proposed change as follow-up to last weeks discussion
>> 3.1 When examining its operations, ICANN the organization could consider
>> using a framework like the UNGPs as well as specific instruments such as
>> HRIAs to assess its impact on Human Rights, and offer remediation.
>> However, it is up to ICANN the organization to decide the most
>> appropriate framework and instrument to do this. The results of ICANN
>> the organization's analysis should be reflected in
>> ICANN’s annual reporting.
>>
>> 4. Preparation of statement to CCWG
>> 5. AOB
>>
>> Looking forward to discuss on the call.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Niels
>>
>> On 08/08/2017 02:22 PM, Niels ten Oever wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I hope this email finds you all very well. Please find the proposed
>>> agenda for the meeting of August 8, 19:00 UTC underneath:
>>>
>>> 1. Administrivia
>>> Roll call, absentees, SoIs, etc
>>> 2. Review of last weeks changes
>>> 2.1 addition ‘, but not limited to:’ to two footnotes
>>>
>>> 3. Proposed change as follow-up to last weeks discussion
>>> 3.1 When examining its operations, ICANN the organization could consider
>>> using a framework like the UNGPs as well as specific instruments such as
>>> HRIAs to assess its impact on Human Rights, and offer remediation.
>>> However, it is up to ICANN the organization to decide the most
>>> appropriate framework and instrument to do this. The results of ICANN
>>> the organization's analysis should such HRIAs should be reflected in
>>> ICANN’s annual reporting.
>>>
>>> 4. Preparation of statement to CCWG
>>> 5. AOB
>>>
>>> Looking forward to discuss on the call.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Niels
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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