[Ws2-hr] Fwd: Input from SSAC to the WG on Human Rights
Paul McGrady
policy at paulmcgrady.com
Wed Mar 15 07:46:34 UTC 2017
Respectfully, it seems that not only what the SSAC is suggesting is
unworkable for lots of reasons, the recommendation itself also seems to be
outside of the SSAC's remit. From their website:
"The Security and Stability Advisory Committee advises the ICANN community
and Board on matters relating to the security and integrity of the
Internet's naming and address allocation systems. This includes operational
matters (e.g., matters pertaining to the correct and reliable operation of
the root name system), administrative matters (e.g., matters pertaining to
address allocation and Internet number assignment), and registration matters
(e.g., matters pertaining to registry and registrar services such as WHOIS).
SSAC engages in ongoing threat assessment and risk analysis of the Internet
naming and address allocation services to assess where the principal threats
to stability and security lie, and advises the ICANN community accordingly."
We really need the SSAC to be the backstop on technical "don't break the
Internet" issues. I'm sorry to see that they have allowed themselves to be
dragged into this human rights discussion, which while important, is not
going to "break the Internet" one way or another. The next time they tell
us that we really shouldn't do something, just a little bit of the usual
reverent deference, at least for me, will be missing.
Best,
Paul McGrady
-----Original Message-----
From: ws2-hr-bounces at icann.org [mailto:ws2-hr-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf
Of Niels ten Oever
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 4:12 PM
To: Paul Twomey <paul.twomey at argopacific.com>
Cc: ws2-hr at icann.org
Subject: Re: [Ws2-hr] Fwd: Input from SSAC to the WG on Human Rights
Hi Paul,
As far as I know ICANN does not have contracts with ccTLDs, right?
In any case, I would like to invite everyone to a session of the CCWP HR *
coming Wednesday March 15 at 17:00 (CEST) ** where both SSAC and an expert
on Human Rights Impact Assessment from the Danish Institute for Human Rights
will be present, so that might be an interesting venue to discuss.
Best,
Niels
* Cross Community Working Party on ICANNs Corporate and Social
Responsibility to Respect Human Right
** https://schedule.icann.org/event/9nmu/gnso-ncsg-icann-human-rights
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 10:43:14AM -0400, Paul Twomey wrote:
> Yes Neil. But think of how does ICANN do a Human Rights Impact
Assessment
> on an agreement with a new ccTLD operator in a non-democratic (or even
> democratic) country? ICANN is not the UN Human Rights Council. It
would
> be explosive.
>
>
> On 3/13/17 10:38 AM, Niels ten Oever wrote:
> > Hi Paul,
> >
> > Thanks for your response. Reply inline:
> >
> > On 03/13/2017 03:32 PM, Paul Twomey wrote:
> > > Dear Niels
> > >
> > > I note the SSAC report. I worry again that its recommendation
language
> > > calling for a Human Rights Impact Assessment,
> > >
> > > Microsoft Word -
> > > SAC0XX_SSAC_Input_to_CCWG-Acc_WS2_Human_Rights_v1.1-CLEAN.docx
> > >
> > > "A Human Rights Impact Assessment4 is a process for systematically
> > > identifying, predicting and responding to the potential human
> > > rights impacts of business operations, policies, or agreements."
> > >
> > > has the possible consequence of inadvertantly trying to impose
> > > human rights tests on agreements in the IANA function, especially as
they may
> > > apply to agreements (written or explicit) with ccTLD operators. As I
> > > have said consistently in this process, this could be extremely
damaging
> > > on the operations and global acceptance of the IANA function. Hence
my
> > > concern about certain sections of the Ruggie Principles being
> > > applied to ICANN - ICANN does not have the luxury of choosing
> > > which parts of the world it may or may not serve.
> > >
> > > First and foremost, the first right of humans we need to protect
> > > is having access to an Internet that is global and operates 7x24.
> > >
> > Isn't that exactly what the SSAC letter says in the first paragraph
> > (as well as the Core Value, and the Framework of Interpretation) ?
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Niels
> >
> >
> > > Best
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/13/17 9:12 AM, Niels ten Oever wrote:
> > > > Dear all,
> > > >
> > > > Please find attached the letter we received from SSAC.
> > > >
> > > > All the best,
> > > >
> > > > Niels
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > > > Subject: Input from SSAC to the WG on Human Rights
> > > > Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 03:12:11 +0100
> > > > From: Patrik Fältström <paf at netnod.se>
> > > > To: Niels ten Oever <niels at article19.org>
> > > > CC: SSAC <ssac at icann.org>, Human Rights
> > > > <cc-humanrights at icann.org>
> > > >
> > > > Niels,
> > > >
> > > > As chair of the Security and Stability Advisory Committee, one
> > > > of the chartering organizations of the CCWG on Accountability,
> > > > we would like to submit the attached comments as fruit for thought
for the discussions.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > Patrik Fältström
> > > > Chair of the SSAC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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