[Ws2-hr] Proposed Agenda FIRST READING considerations document March 21 19:00 UTC
matthew shears
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Mon Mar 20 22:51:44 UTC 2017
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On 20/03/2017 22:49, Dr. Tatiana Tropina wrote:
>
> My full support to what Greg just said. I couldn't attend the call due
> to other obligations, but I am puzzled with the suggestion to send a
> document to a non-participant - who never contributed to the work of
> the group - before sending it to the plenary. What exactly is going to
> be achieved by this? Ms. Ramasastry can join the group now (as far as
> I understand we are open to participation at any stage), or she can
> choose to submit her comments in the public comment period. Anything
> else is the obstruction of the process.
>
> Cheers
>
> Tanya
>
>
> On 20/03/17 23:36, Greg Shatan wrote:
>> It seems appropriate to discuss the call we had (since it happened).
>> I don't believe she was a "UN representative" per se, but she (Anita
>> Ramasastry (?)) had some relationship to the UN. (Unfortunately, I
>> don't believe it was recorded, and I assume that none of us who were
>> there have perfect recall, given mental overload, sleep deprivation,
>> etc., but that's life.)
>>
>> I would be opposed to any plan to submit any of our documents to
>> Prof. Ramasastry before finalizing and submitting them to the CCWG.
>> She can always comment in the Public Comment period. But we
>> shouldn't privilege any non-participant in this manner. This is
>> particularly the case since the current draft essentially makes no
>> recommendation regarding the application (or not) of Ruggie in any
>> operationalization* of the Bylaw. Thus it seems unnecessary, as well
>> as inappropriate.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>> *(I use "operationalization" to avoid confusion with
>> "implementation", which typically is used in ICANN-land to refer to
>> post-policy development implementation of a policy. What we are
>> referring to here is "implementing"/operationalization a Bylaw
>> through policy development or through the modification of a policy
>> development process.)
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 5:57 PM Aikman-Scalese, Anne
>> <AAikman at lrrc.com <mailto:AAikman at lrrc.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Niels. Regarding the agenda, I believe we also stated
>> in the drafting team meeting on Saturday that we were going to
>> discuss with the full subgroup the call we had with the U.N.
>> representative (Anita) arranged by Mark Carvell and the point
>> that some in the group wanted to submit the documents to the U.N.
>> representative prior to finalizing the recommendation to the full
>> CCWG.
>>
>> Even if the document is not submitted, we should advise the full
>> subgroup of the call so I hope this can be added to the agenda.
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Anne
>>
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>> <mailto:ws2-hr-bounces at icann.org>] On Behalf Of Niels ten Oever
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>> Subject: [Ws2-hr] Proposed Agenda FIRST READING considerations
>> document March 21 19:00 UTC
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Please find attached and underneath the agenda for our session
>> tomorrow March 21 at 19:00 UTC.
>>
>> The document we'll discuss is the Copenhagen Drafting Team
>> Consensus Document, which clearly was not a full consensus, so
>> I've added the minority position of Anne Aikman-Scalese to the
>> document for discussion.
>>
>> Even though these two points are unresolved I hope we can still
>> aim to have a first reading of the document, next to the
>> discussion of the points of course.
>>
>> 1. Administrivia
>> Roll call, absentees, SoIs, etc
>> 2. First reading (of two) of the Considerations document prepared
>> by the drafting team 3. AOB
>>
>> The document can also be found here:
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rDYyuXacrSYDtlSK5JqNQe7XOX2LbM86AzfDay8zpoE/edit
>>
>> Please let me know if you have any questions or suggestions.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Niels
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