[Ws2-hr] Proposed Agenda FIRST READING considerations document March 21 19:00 UTC

matthew shears mshears at cdt.org
Mon Mar 20 22:51:44 UTC 2017


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On 20/03/2017 22:49, Dr. Tatiana Tropina wrote:
>
> My full support to what Greg just said. I couldn't attend the call due 
> to other obligations, but I am puzzled with the suggestion to send a 
> document to a non-participant - who never contributed to the work of 
> the group - before sending it to the plenary. What exactly is going to 
> be achieved by this? Ms. Ramasastry can join the group now (as far as 
> I understand we are open to participation at any stage), or she can 
> choose to submit her comments in the public comment period. Anything 
> else is the obstruction of the process.
>
> Cheers
>
> Tanya
>
>
> On 20/03/17 23:36, Greg Shatan wrote:
>> It seems appropriate to discuss the call we had (since it happened).  
>> I don't believe she was a "UN representative" per se, but she (Anita 
>> Ramasastry (?)) had some relationship to the UN.  (Unfortunately, I 
>> don't believe it was recorded, and I assume that none of us who were 
>> there have perfect recall, given mental overload, sleep deprivation, 
>> etc., but that's life.)
>>
>>  I would be opposed to any plan to submit any of our documents to 
>> Prof. Ramasastry before finalizing and submitting them to the CCWG.  
>> She can always comment in the Public Comment period.  But we 
>> shouldn't privilege any non-participant in this manner.  This is 
>> particularly the case since the current draft essentially makes no 
>> recommendation regarding the application (or not) of Ruggie in any 
>> operationalization* of the Bylaw.  Thus it seems unnecessary, as well 
>> as inappropriate.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>  *(I use "operationalization" to avoid confusion with 
>> "implementation", which typically is used in ICANN-land to refer to 
>> post-policy development implementation of a policy. What we are 
>> referring to here is "implementing"/operationalization a Bylaw 
>> through policy development or through the modification of a policy 
>> development process.)
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 5:57 PM Aikman-Scalese, Anne 
>> <AAikman at lrrc.com <mailto:AAikman at lrrc.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Thank you Niels.  Regarding the agenda,  I believe we also stated
>>     in the drafting team meeting on Saturday that we were going to
>>     discuss with the full subgroup the call we had with  the U.N.
>>     representative (Anita) arranged by Mark Carvell and the point
>>     that some in the group wanted to submit the documents to the U.N.
>>     representative prior to finalizing the recommendation to the full
>>     CCWG.
>>
>>     Even if the document is not submitted, we should advise the full
>>     subgroup of the call so I hope this can be added to the agenda.
>>     Thank you,
>>
>>     Anne
>>
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>>     <mailto:ws2-hr-bounces at icann.org>] On Behalf Of Niels ten Oever
>>     Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 2:44 PM
>>     To: ws2-hr at icann.org <mailto:ws2-hr at icann.org>
>>     Subject: [Ws2-hr] Proposed Agenda FIRST READING considerations
>>     document March 21 19:00 UTC
>>
>>     Dear all,
>>
>>     Please find attached and underneath the agenda for our session
>>     tomorrow March 21 at 19:00 UTC.
>>
>>     The document we'll discuss is the Copenhagen Drafting Team
>>     Consensus Document, which clearly was not a full consensus, so
>>     I've added the minority position of Anne Aikman-Scalese to the
>>     document for discussion.
>>
>>     Even though these two points are unresolved I hope we can still
>>     aim to have a first reading of the document, next to the
>>     discussion of the points of course.
>>
>>     1. Administrivia
>>     Roll call, absentees, SoIs, etc
>>     2. First reading (of two) of the Considerations document prepared
>>     by the drafting team 3. AOB
>>
>>     The document can also be found here:
>>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rDYyuXacrSYDtlSK5JqNQe7XOX2LbM86AzfDay8zpoE/edit
>>
>>     Please let me know if you have any questions or suggestions.
>>
>>     All the best,
>>
>>     Niels
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