[Ws2-hr] Proposed Agenda FIRST READING considerations document March 21 19:00 UTC
Dr. Tatiana Tropina
t.tropina at mpicc.de
Mon Mar 20 22:49:28 UTC 2017
My full support to what Greg just said. I couldn't attend the call due
to other obligations, but I am puzzled with the suggestion to send a
document to a non-participant - who never contributed to the work of the
group - before sending it to the plenary. What exactly is going to be
achieved by this? Ms. Ramasastry can join the group now (as far as I
understand we are open to participation at any stage), or she can choose
to submit her comments in the public comment period. Anything else is
the obstruction of the process.
Cheers
Tanya
On 20/03/17 23:36, Greg Shatan wrote:
> It seems appropriate to discuss the call we had (since it happened).
> I don't believe she was a "UN representative" per se, but she (Anita
> Ramasastry (?)) had some relationship to the UN. (Unfortunately, I
> don't believe it was recorded, and I assume that none of us who were
> there have perfect recall, given mental overload, sleep deprivation,
> etc., but that's life.)
>
> I would be opposed to any plan to submit any of our documents to
> Prof. Ramasastry before finalizing and submitting them to the CCWG.
> She can always comment in the Public Comment period. But we shouldn't
> privilege any non-participant in this manner. This is particularly
> the case since the current draft essentially makes no recommendation
> regarding the application (or not) of Ruggie in any
> operationalization* of the Bylaw. Thus it seems unnecessary, as well
> as inappropriate.
>
> Greg
>
>
> *(I use "operationalization" to avoid confusion with
> "implementation", which typically is used in ICANN-land to refer to
> post-policy development implementation of a policy. What we are
> referring to here is "implementing"/operationalization a Bylaw through
> policy development or through the modification of a policy development
> process.)
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 5:57 PM Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman at lrrc.com
> <mailto:AAikman at lrrc.com>> wrote:
>
> Thank you Niels. Regarding the agenda, I believe we also stated
> in the drafting team meeting on Saturday that we were going to
> discuss with the full subgroup the call we had with the U.N.
> representative (Anita) arranged by Mark Carvell and the point that
> some in the group wanted to submit the documents to the U.N.
> representative prior to finalizing the recommendation to the full
> CCWG.
>
> Even if the document is not submitted, we should advise the full
> subgroup of the call so I hope this can be added to the agenda.
> Thank you,
>
> Anne
>
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> Dear all,
>
> Please find attached and underneath the agenda for our session
> tomorrow March 21 at 19:00 UTC.
>
> The document we'll discuss is the Copenhagen Drafting Team
> Consensus Document, which clearly was not a full consensus, so
> I've added the minority position of Anne Aikman-Scalese to the
> document for discussion.
>
> Even though these two points are unresolved I hope we can still
> aim to have a first reading of the document, next to the
> discussion of the points of course.
>
> 1. Administrivia
> Roll call, absentees, SoIs, etc
> 2. First reading (of two) of the Considerations document prepared
> by the drafting team 3. AOB
>
> The document can also be found here:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rDYyuXacrSYDtlSK5JqNQe7XOX2LbM86AzfDay8zpoE/edit
>
> Please let me know if you have any questions or suggestions.
>
> All the best,
>
> Niels
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