[Ws2-jurisdiction] CCWG-Accountability-WS2-Jurisdiction-Meeting Scheduled for Wednesday 2 August 1300
Nigel Roberts
nigel at channelisles.net
Mon Jul 31 19:04:04 UTC 2017
Just for reference . . .
http://www.itv.com/news/channel/2016-12-15/alderney-celebrates-homecoming-day/
On 31/07/17 19:53, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:
> Sir, Pls indicate ,based on the participation list at the Sub Group, who
> from those long list attend the sub group .
> But from Switzerland ,at least three
> Moreover, I do not understand Los Angles day, we are talking of National
> Holidays NOT REGIONAL OR URBAN HOLIDAYSD
> Regards
> Kavouss
>
> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Kavouss Arasteh
> <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com <mailto:kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Sir,
> your comments is totally misleading.
> Regards
> Kavouss
>
> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Paul Rosenzweig
> <paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com
> <mailto:paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com>> wrote:
>
> Indeed, we should not have meetings on the national holiday of
> any nation. Here is a helpful list for August:
> http://www.officeholidays.com/2017/08.php
> <http://www.officeholidays.com/2017/08.php>____
>
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> Paul____
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> Paul Rosenzweig____
>
> paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com
> <mailto:paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com>____
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> O: +1 (202) 547-0660 <tel:(202)%20547-0660>____
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> M: +1 (202) 329-9650 <tel:(202)%20329-9650>____
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> VOIP: +1 (202) 738-1739 <tel:(202)%20738-1739>____
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> *From:* ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org>
> [mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org>] *On Behalf Of
> *Kavouss Arasteh
> *Sent:* Monday, July 31, 2017 2:12 PM
> *To:* Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com
> <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>>; León Felipe Sánchez Ambía
> <leonfelipe at sanchez.mx <mailto:leonfelipe at sanchez.mx>>; Thomas
> Rickert <rickert at anwaelte.de <mailto:rickert at anwaelte.de>>;
> Bernard Turcotte <turcotte.bernard at gmail.com
> <mailto:turcotte.bernard at gmail.com>>
> *Cc:* ACCT-Staff <acct-staff at icann.org
> <mailto:acct-staff at icann.org>>; ws2-jurisdiction
> <ws2-jurisdiction at icann.org <mailto:ws2-jurisdiction at icann.org>>
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ws2-jurisdiction]
> CCWG-Accountability-WS2-Jurisdiction-Meeting Scheduled for
> Wednesday 2 August 1300____
>
> __ __
>
> Dear Bernard,____
>
> It is a pity that SAM Unfortunately cannot join our Wednesday 2
> August 1300 meeting but could participate on Tuesday 1 August
> 1300 to cover the topics of OFAC and Choice of Law from the
> ICANN perspective.____
>
> However, tomorrow 01 August is the National Holiday in
> Switzerland and must be respected by all means. See Below____
>
> The *Swiss National Day* is the national holiday
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Day>of Switzerland
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland>, set on 1
> August.__*It has been an official national holiday since 1994 *,
> although the day had been used for the celebration of the
> foundation of the Swiss Confederacy for the first time in 1891,
> and then repeated annually since 1899.^1]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_National_Day#cite_note-1> ____
>
> The date is inspired by the date of the Federal Charter of 1291
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Charter_of_1291>, *_Pacte
> du Grutli, _*placed in "early August",^[2]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_National_Day#cite_note-2>
> *_when "three Alpine cantons swore the oath of confederation"
> (Schwyz, Uri and Unterwald), _*an action *which later came to be
> regarded as the foundation of Switzerland*."^[3]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_National_Day#cite_note-swissworld-3>
> /^needed
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed> /^] ____
>
> The Federal Charter of 1291 first assumed great importance in a
> report by the Federal Department of Home Affairs
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Department_of_Home_Affairs>of
> 21 November 1889, suggesting a celebration in Bern
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bern>in 1891 that would combine
> the city's 700th anniversary with the Confederacy's
> 600thanniversary.^[ /^citation needed
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed> /^] ____
>
> ^I remember, we did not have any meeting on 4TH July as we
> respected the National Holiday of American. ____
>
> ^I therefore have serious difficulties to accept the shift of
> the meeting from 02 to 01 August disrespecting the national
> holiday of a respectful nation ____
>
> ^Pls move the meeting back to 02 August ____
>
> ^Regards ____
>
> ^Kavouss ____
>
> __ __
>
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> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Paul Rosenzweig
> <paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com
> <mailto:paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com>> wrote:____
>
> +1 ____
>
> ____
>
> Paul____
>
> ____
>
> Paul Rosenzweig____
>
> paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com
> <mailto:paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com>____
>
> O: +1 (202) 547-0660 <tel:(202)%20547-0660>____
>
> M: +1 (202) 329-9650 <tel:(202)%20329-9650>____
>
> VOIP: +1 (202) 738-1739 <tel:(202)%20738-1739>____
>
> www.redbranchconsulting.com
> <http://www.redbranchconsulting.com/>____
>
> My PGP Key:
> https://keys.mailvelope.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x9A830097CA066684
> <https://keys.mailvelope.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x9A830097CA066684>____
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> ____
>
> *From:* ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org>
> [mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org>] *On Behalf Of
> *Jordan Carter
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 30, 2017 7:39 PM
> *To:* Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com
> <mailto:kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>>
> *Cc:* ACCT-Staff (acct-staff at icann.org
> <mailto:acct-staff at icann.org>) <acct-staff at icann.org
> <mailto:acct-staff at icann.org>>; ws2-jurisdiction
> <ws2-jurisdiction at icann.org <mailto:ws2-jurisdiction at icann.org>>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ws2-jurisdiction]
> CCWG-Accountability-WS2-Jurisdiction-Meeting Scheduled for
> Wednesday 2 August 1300____
>
> ____
>
> Dear Kavouss, dear all,____
>
> ____
>
> I would like to lend my support to the process that Greg has
> set out. It is important for the integrity of the CCWG's
> process that decisions about what work to request from ICANN
> are made by sub-groups as a whole or by the CCWG plenary.____
>
> ____
>
> If the Jurisdiction group decides that the sort of written
> material being requested is required, then I am sure that
> ICANN will look favourably at that request and provide it as
> soon as possible.____
>
>
> The written transcripts of the call will help make any
> verbal briefings and information available and easier to
> understand as well.____
>
> ____
>
> I look forward to hearing how the call goes.____
>
> ____
>
> All bests,____
>
> Jordan____
>
> ____
>
> ____
>
> On 31 July 2017 at 07:40, Kavouss Arasteh
> <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com
> <mailto:kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>> wrote:____
>
> Dear Greg____
>
> Thank you for reply.____
>
> I know many people do not wish to react or act on OFAC
> as they would like that such unreasonable continued to
> be applied to some limited number of countries . You may
> not have any point to do that .____
>
> Sam Eisner explanation MUST BE IN WRITTEN FORM as I have
> serious difficulties to understand her message while
> she may speak very well but I have difficulty to get
> the message so I want an advance copy of her
> explanation before the meeting .____
>
> Pls note that I am not alone on the issue. If there are
> not other people at call that does not mean that I am
> alone.____
>
> It seems that OFAC ISSUE WILL NOT BE TREATED since
> according to you there is no support for that. That is
> not what we expected from your Group.____
>
> I know that there must be other motivation than
> technical and administrative that this question is
> rejected by you and your colleagues.____
>
> However, this is an important issue and MUST be
> addressed .____
>
> You can not ignore it even if there are few countries
> affected.____
>
> I will not leave as such to be put at corner by you. I
> will insist and ask for a written documents ____
>
> There is no relation with state assets and DNS .There
> were and still there are other motivation to apply it
> and other motivation NOT to address it. I do not know
> what are those motivations.____
>
> At any meeting you as a participants push and sushi for
> your points and taking considerable amount of time of
> the meeting since you have several supporters.____
>
> Pls kindly reconsider your position and be a little bit
> helpful and not categorically object to my legitimate
> requiert .____
>
> Tks for your kind attention and advice____
>
> Kavouss ____
>
> ____
>
> On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 8:20 PM, Greg Shatan
> <gregshatanipc at gmail.com
> <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>> wrote:____
>
> Kavouss,____
>
> ____
>
> I am responding to your various emails regarding
> your request that ICANN Legal be required to prepare
> a comprehensive "written history background
> Document" on OFAC and ICANN before meeting with the
> Jurisdiction Subgroup. As you know, Samantha Eisner
> from ICANN Legal is scheduled to meet with the
> Jurisdiction Subgroup on Tuesday, August 1 at
> 13:00. ____
>
> ____
>
> You suggested this course of action in the
> Jurisdiction Subgroup meeting on July 26. There was
> no other support for this course of action in the
> Subgroup meeting. At that time, I proposed that we
> would start by hearing from ICANN legal in the
> meeting and engaging in Q&A with ICANN. The
> Subgroup would then be able to decide if we needed
> to ask ICANN further questions, if we wanted written
> responses, etc. There was no opposition to this
> course of action, other than from yourself. I
> believe this is all reflected in the transcript.____
>
> ____
>
> I will note that, subsequent to the meeting, no one
> from the Subgroup has responded to your emails in
> support of your request. In conjunction with the
> results in the Subgroup meeting, I believe it fair
> to conclude that there is not sufficient support for
> your request in the Subgroup.____
>
> ____
>
> Therefore, we will proceed as agreed on the last
> call and documented in the transcript. We will hear
> from ICANN Legal and ask questions. The Subgroup
> (and not any single participant) will then decide
> what, if any, follow-up is needed. ____
>
> ____
>
> After this email, I will send out an email to the
> list requesting questions for ICANN Legal, which we
> can provide them in advance of the call. I hope
> that you will contribute to this effort.____
>
> ____
>
> Please note that there are times when professional
> and personal obligations may prevent from responding
> to ICANN-related emails as quickly as I might wish.
> As with all of my ICANN activities, I am acting as
> Rapporteur entirely on a volunteer basis, which is
> only possible if I meet my obligations to my
> employer and our clients, devote some time to my
> family, and attend to other responsibilities that
> may be pressing at any given time.____
>
> ____
>
> I look forward to your continued contributions to
> the work of the Jurisdiction Subgroup.____
>
> ____
>
> Best regards,____
>
> ____
>
> Greg Shatan____
>
> ____
>
> ____
>
> ____
>
> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 4:59 PM, Kavouss Arasteh
> <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com
> <mailto:kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>> wrote:____
>
> Dear Grec, I have no problem for moving that
> meeting by one day to Tuseday.____
>
> But I insist that before the meeting we need a
> written history background Document as I have
> asked.____
>
> I think this is absolutely necessary e to have a
> written doc. in addition to verbal explanation
> by SAM ,____
>
> I do not understand why my e-mail has not been
> replied.____
>
> Pls kindly explain.____
>
> Herb is kindly requested to monitor the process
> as I will take the non reply formally to him and
> to the co-chairs that till now have not reacted
> even though I copied my correspendenc to them
> as well ____
>
> Regards____
>
> ____
>
> ____
>
> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 9:41 PM, Mueller, Milton
> L <milton at gatech.edu <mailto:milton at gatech.edu>>
> wrote:____
>
> The time change is OK with me. ____
>
> ____
>
> Hopefully we can devote all of the call to
> Q&A on OFAC and choice of law and can
> dispense with the other stuff. ____
>
> ____
>
> We might also provide a channel for advance
> submission of questions so that the
> opportunity to ask questions is fairly
> distributed among different subgroup
> participants. ____
>
> ____
>
> Dr. Milton L. Mueller____
>
> Professor, School of Public Policy____
>
> Georgia Institute of Technology____
>
> ____
>
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>
> *From:* ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org>
> [mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *Bernard Turcotte
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 6:26 PM
> *To:* ws2-jurisdiction
> <ws2-jurisdiction at icann.org
> <mailto:ws2-jurisdiction at icann.org>>;
> ACCT-Staff (acct-staff at icann.org
> <mailto:acct-staff at icann.org>)
> <acct-staff at icann.org
> <mailto:acct-staff at icann.org>>
> *Subject:* [Ws2-jurisdiction]
> CCWG-Accountability-WS2-Jurisdiction-Meeting
> Scheduled for Wednesday 2 August 1300____
>
> ____
>
> All,____
>
> ____
>
> Unfortunately Sam Eisner cannot join our
> Wednesday 2 August 1300 meeting but could
> participate on Tuesday 1 August 1300 to
> cover the topics of OFAC and Choice of Law
> from the ICANN perspective.____
>
> ____
>
> As such Greg is suggesting that we move our
> scheduled meeting to Tuesday 1 August 1300
> and cancel the Wednesday 2 August 1300
> meeting.____
>
> ____
>
> Please advise acct-staff at icann.org
> <mailto:acct-staff at icann.org> by 23:59 UTC
> 27 July if you have serious objections to
> this change of date.____
>
> ____
>
> Greg will consider the responses and confirm
> his decision regarding this by the EOB
> tomorrow to allow everyone to plan
> accordingly.____
>
> ____
>
> For Greg Shatan____
>
> ____
>
> Bernard Turcotte____
>
> ICANN Support Staff to the
> CCWG-Accountability-WS2____
>
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