[CCWG-ACCT] Human rights - way forward
Stephanie Perrin
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
Sat Aug 1 14:03:47 UTC 2015
I would like to do that as well please.
Stephanie Perrin
On 2015-08-01 2:56, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:19 PM, Jordan Carter
> <jordan at internetnz.net.nz <mailto:jordan at internetnz.net.nz>> wrote:
>
> and I do not volunteer to participate on the subgroup, but I would
> like to be on the email list to see the conversation and learn
> more about the issue.
>
>
> +1 like to have such status as well ;-)
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> Jordan
>
>
> On 1 August 2015 at 05:15, Malcolm Hutty <malcolm at linx.net
> <mailto:malcolm at linx.net>> wrote:
>
> I share Paul's misgivings and support Keith's proposed
> qualification. And volunteer for the subgroup.
>
> Malcolm.
>
>
>
> > On 31 Jul 2015, at 18:01, Paul Twomey
> <paul.twomey at argopacific.com
> <mailto:paul.twomey at argopacific.com>> wrote:
> >
> > +1
> > I am sympathetic to the general thrust of the discussion,
> but I am DEEPLY worried about anything which makes ICANN look
> like a place were definitions of Human Rights and their
> application is discussed. Knowing how poisonous and
> constantly aggravating this is in the UN system, we may end up
> inadvertently attracting a whole new set of diplomats into the
> GAC which will risk GAC turning into a very divisive force in
> the ICANN structure. (Even in the UN, the Human Rights
> battles have resulted in one UN entity being dismantled
> (almost unheard of in UN history) and another established) We
> really do not want to go down that path. So keeping within
> Mission and being very specific as to how some clear rights
> may apply to specific things ICANN does (eg freedom of
> expression in gtld string applications) will be useful.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >> On 8/1/15 2:38 AM, James Gannon wrote:
> >> I second Robins support.
> >>
> >> -James
> >>
> >> ________________________________________
> >> From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org>
> <accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org>> on
> behalf of Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org
> <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>>
> >> Sent: 31 July 2015 17:37
> >> To: Accountability Cross Community
> >> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Human rights - way forward
> >>
> >> I also support this key language from Keith.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Robin
> >>
> >>> On Jul 31, 2015, at 8:48 AM, Izumi Okutani wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Many thanks to Co-Chairs for this suggestion on the way
> forward.
> >>> I support the suggested approach.
> >>>
> >>>> It could also be added here:
> >>>>
> >>>> - this assessment and a firm commitment to add a human
> rights related Commitment into Icann's Bylaws WITHIN ITS
> DEFINED MISSION
> >>> I also support this suggestion from Keith.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Izumi
> >>>
> >>>> On 2015/08/01 0:24, Drazek, Keith wrote:
> >>>> Thanks to the Co-Chairs.
> >>>>
> >>>> I support this approach with one caveat. I expect this is
> already understood but needs confirmation.
> >>>>
> >>>> Consistent with the CCWG discussions on the issue, when
> we present the issue to the public, it must be made clear that
> any such bylaw amendment is limited to ICANN's mission. It
> cannot be used as a tool to expand ICANN's mission, now or in
> the future. Without this, we do NOT have consensus to include
> the reference. I assume this would fit under the proposed section:
> >>>>
> >>>> - the underlying requirements expressed during the debate,
> >>>>
> >>>> It could also be added here:
> >>>>
> >>>> - this assessment and a firm commitment to add a human
> rights related Commitment into Icann's Bylaws WITHIN ITS
> DEFINED MISSION
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks and regards,
> >>>> Keith
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jul 31, 2015, at 7:51 AM, Mathieu Weill
> <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr
> <mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr><mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr
> <mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear Colleagues,
> >>>>
> >>>> As announced during our last call, the co-Chairs have
> reviewed where we are on this issue. Our group is tasked to
> work on the basis of consensus, and we have focused on
> assessing where this condition was met.
> >>>>
> >>>> It is our conclusion that :
> >>>> 1) our group has achieved consensus on including a human
> rights related Commitment in Icann's Bylaws.
> >>>> 2) no particular wording currently proposed achieved
> consensus.
> >>>>
> >>>> As a consequence, we propose to include into the public
> comment 2 report (in the Mission & Core value section, a draft
> is included below)
> >>>> - this assessment and a firm commitment to add a human
> rights related Commitment into Icann's Bylaws,
> >>>> - the underlying requirements expressed during the debate,
> >>>> - the concrete language proposals that were considered by
> our group so far, as examples
> >>>>
> >>>> Finally, given the strong momentum on the issue, both
> during the meeting and on list before and after, and taking
> into account the high level of complexity involved, we suggest
> to kick off ASAP a subgroup to further refine the requirements
> and assess potential options based on further studies of the
> current situation and "agreed-on" language.
> >>>>
> >>>> We thank you all for your understanding and commitment on
> this topic, as well as the extensive discussions both on list
> and during the calls about this.
> >>>>
> >>>> As a reminder, Minority statements filed until Saturday
> 12.00 UTC will be incorporated into the report to be published
> on Monday. Statements filed after this deadline will be
> published online but not incorporated into the report.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>> Leon, Thomas & Mathieu
> >>>> Co-chairs
> >>>>
> >>>> -----------------------------------------------
> >>>> NEW SUBSECTION IN 3A Mission, Commitmennts & Core Values
> >>>>
> >>>> Elaborating an Icann Commitment to Human Rights
> >>>>
> >>>> The CCWG-Accountability extensively discussed the
> opportunity to include into Icann Bylaws a Comittment related
> to Human Rights. The group commissioned a legal analysis of
> whether the termination of the IANA contract would induce
> changes into Icann's obligations with regards to Human Rights
> (LINK). While no significant issue was found to be directly
> linked to the termination of the IANA contract, the group
> acknowledged the recurring debates around the nature of
> Icann's accountability towards the respect of fundamental
> human rights.
> >>>>
> >>>> These discussions identified the following,
> non-exhaustive, list of accountability-related requirements :
> >>>> - the NTIA criteria to maintain the openness of the
> Internet, including free expression and the free flow of
> information
> >>>> - the need to avoid extending Icann's mission into
> content regulation
> >>>> - the importance of assessing the impact of Icann
> policies on Human rights
> >>>>
> >>>> Examples of language that could serve as a Commitment
> were as follows :
> >>>> - Within its mission and in its operations, ICANN will be
> committed to respect the fundamental human rights of the
> exercise of free expression and the free flow of information.
> >>>> - Within its mission and in it operations, ICANN will be
> committed to respect internationally recognized fundamental
> human rights.
> >>>>
> >>>> The group has achieved consensus on including a human
> rights related Commitment in Icann's Bylaws. However no
> particular wording currently proposed achieved consensus.
> Reiterating its commitment to elaborate concrete proposals as
> part of its mandate, the CCWG-Accountability is calling for
> comments on this approach and the underlying requirements.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> *****************************
> >>>> Mathieu WEILL
> >>>> AFNIC - directeur g�n�ral
> >>>> T�l: +33 1 39 30 83 06 <tel:%2B33%201%2039%2030%2083%2006>
> >>>> mathieu.weill at afnic.fr
> <mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr><mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr
> <mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>>
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