[CCWG-Accountability] the term "community"
Mathieu Weill
mathieu.weill at afnic.fr
Mon Jan 12 16:13:05 UTC 2015
Dear Kavouss,
Many thanks for taking the time to provide such extensive comments
regarding the proposed document on scope and definitions.
I believe you raise a number of valuable questions, which unfortunately
will probably not find answers in this particular document as they
pertain to further stages of our work. This is the case for all the
mentions of the need to clarify how we would address an issue.
I also note you suggested edits regarding some of the quotes of our
Charter. I am afraid this would require to go back to the Chartering
organisations, and therefore I find it difficult to address. This
includes the definition of accountability (from Netmundial statement) as
well as the definition of stakeholders (from the European framework for
quality management).
Among the various comments you raise, I can reinforce the fact that the
lists of examples are for illustration only, and are not meant to be
comprehensive.
The next version of the document will take your comments into account.
Best
Mathieu
Le 12/01/2015 11:59, Kavouss Arasteh a écrit :
> Mathieu, and others
> Please find attached my comments in form of revision marks my comments
> Kavouss
>
> 2015-01-12 9:26 GMT+01:00 Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr
> <mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>>:
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> This discussion about the "community" is quite relevant to our
> group. May I suggest to turn these discussions into proposed edits
> to the draft document regarding scope and definitions ?
> Essentially within the section regarding stakeholders.
>
> I attach the documents once again.
>
> Best
> Mathieu
> Le 10/01/2015 12:21, Bruce Tonkin a écrit :
>
> Hello Kavouss,
>
> I have one question which continued to bother me as
> everyone refers to "community"
> What is that magic term "community» covers?
> Does it includes or embrace the entire
> multistakeholders?
> As it was discussed at several occasion, there
> is a defacto agreement that ,generally speaking
> multistakeholder composed of Civil Society,
> Private Sector, Technical Community including
> academics, Governments
>
>
> I think that is a good question, and probably worth this group
> considering some definitions around that topic.
>
> For me personally, I tend to think of the terms in the
> following way:
>
> "ICANN Community" - this is the group of people that
> participate in the various ICANN working groups via email,
> phone, or websites, and attend ICANN meetings. This group
> is made up of individuals from GNSO constituencies and
> stakeholder groups, GAC, SSAC, ALAC, RSSAC, ccTLD
> representatives, RIR representatives etc. In my personal
> view, it is multi-stakeholder in that it includes people from
> Civil Society, Private Sector, Technical Community including
> academics, Governments.
>
> In addition to that there is a wider community of people that
> are members of the various organizations that are in turn
> members of the various groups that comprise the ICANN
> community. As an example, I am a member of the Internet
> Society of Australia (ISOC) which is part of the Asia,
> Australasia and the Pacific Islands Regional At-Large
> Organisation (APRALO) which is part of At-large. ISOC in
> Australia may send a representative to ICANN meetings. A
> business might be a member of a chamber of commerce or
> business association, which in turn could be a member of the
> ICANN business constituency, and that chamber of commerce or
> business association may send a representative to an ICANN
> meeting as a member of the ICANN community. I don't have any
> specific name for this wider group of people and organizations.
>
> Then there is term "public" which is used within the term
> "global public interest". In general, I personally think of
> the public in this context as Internet users. However you
> could also consider public in this context to be all the
> people of the world. Even people that don't directly use the
> Internet as a communication mechanism are probably affected by
> it in some way.
>
> The fundamental responsibility of the Board of ICANN is to
> exercise their judgment to act in what they reasonably believe
> to be the best interests of the global public interest, taking
> account of the interests of the Internet community as a whole
> rather than any individual group or interest. Its primary
> feedback mechanism for determining the global public interest
> is the "ICANN community" described above.
>
>
> Regards,
> Bruce Tonkin
>
>
>
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