[CCWG-ACCT] Membership thoughts

[Seun Ojedeji]

The question was:

" Could you explain your reasoning so that we can better understand your
position? "

And your response is that you "fundamentally" oppose it... Perhaps you can
do better in giving reason.

Thanks
sent from Google nexus 4
kindly excuse brevity and typos.
On 24 Jan 2015 07:28, "Dr Eberhard W Lisse" <el at lisse.na> wrote:

> Yes,
>
> I am fundamentally opposed to the Regional Organizations of the ccNSO
> having anything to do with or say in this.
>
> I have no objections against all (cc)TLD Managers becoming "members".
>
> el
>
> Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
>
> On Jan 24, 2015, at 07:56, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Could you explain your reasoning so that we can better understand your
> position?  Thank you.
>
> Greg Shatan
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> On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 12:36 AM, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na> wrote:
>
>> Just to state this early, over my dead boy will the Regional
>> Organizations of the ccNSO have anything to do or say in this.
>>
>> I would not mind every (cc)TLD Manager.
>>
>> el
>>
>> Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
>>
>> > On Jan 24, 2015, at 01:32, Bruce Tonkin <
>> Bruce.Tonkin at melbourneit.com.au> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello Greg,
>> >
>> >
>> >>> Just brainstorming: one possibility may be to create "mirror" or
>> "alter ego" organizations (perhaps corporations, perhaps some other form of
>> organized entity), roughly along the lines of the NRO/ASO relationship (the
>> ASO is an ICANN internal structure, while the NRO is not, yet they are
>> essentially "alter egos").  Thus, each SO and AC could create an entity
>> independent of ICANN, but answerable to that SO and AC.  The external
>> entities could then be members of ICANN.
>> >
>> > My understanding also is that to be "members"  the organizations would
>> need to be legal entities.   In a few of the examples given in this
>> thread,  the "coordinating" organizations are not yet established as legal
>> entities.
>> >
>> > For example, the Number Resource Organization ( https://www.nro.net/)
>> is a coordinating body for the 5 Regional Internet Registries (RIRs).
>>  These five RIRs are legal entities - so it may make more sense for them to
>> be the "members" of ICANN.
>> >
>> > My understanding is that groups like the Registrar constituency, and
>> the registrar stakeholder group (http://www.icannregistrars.org/ ) are
>> deliberately not established as legal entities, or as trade associations.
>>   They are coordinating groups - but any legal agreements etc are always
>> between individual registrars as legal entities and ICANN.      Recently a
>> domain name industry association was established - I assume this is a legal
>> entity (http://www.thedna.org/ ).
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Bruce Tonkin
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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