[CCWG-ACCT] The big test of effective accountability

Jordan Carter jordan at internetnz.net.nz
Thu Jan 29 22:41:07 UTC 2015


Eric:

I think the USG would be highly displeased.

For what it is worth, I think that the accountability created by the NTIA
contract, and the fact that the USG is seeking to end that arrangement, is
why we are all having this conversation in the first place.

Without the contract, what do you think the USG would do?

The point is not whether the Board intends or does not intend to end the
AOC. I have no doubt it has no such desire.

The point is, in the post-NTIA-contract world, what would we want to be
able to do about it?

best
Jordan


On 30 January 2015 at 11:30, Eric Brunner-Williams <ebw at abenaki.wabanaki.net
> wrote:

>  Steve, Jordan, and anyone else so inclined,
>
> Would you care to offer your best guess(es) as to the response of the
> Government of the United States were the Corporation to engage in the
> course of conduct proposed?
>
> I suspect it would look suspiciously similar to something we've seen
> before,
> http://www.ntia.doc.gov/files/ntia/publications/fr_ianafunctionsnoi_02252011.pdf
>
> Have either of you (or others sharing the concern expressed by Steve and
> Jordan) any indication that the Board is or ever has considered unilateral
> termination of the AoC?
>
> Eric Brunner-Williams
> Eugene, Oregon
>
>
> On 1/29/15 2:14 PM, Jordan Carter wrote:
>
>
> On 30 January 2015 at 11:07, Eric Brunner-Williams <
> ebw at abenaki.wabanaki.net> wrote:
>
>> On 1/29/15 1:58 PM, Steve DelBianco wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, so Jonathan exaggerated a bit by saying we have zero
>>> accountability today.  But Avri admits we have no mechanisms that are
>>> binding on the board. And Avri cites the AoC, which can be canceled by
>>> ICANN at any time.
>>>
>>
>>  Would you be so kind as to offer support for this ... peculiar claim?
>>
>>
>  From section 11 of the AOC:
>
>  "Any party may terminate this Affirmation of Commitments by providing
> 120 days written notice to the other party."
>
>
> https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/affirmation-of-commitments-2009-09-30-en
>
>  duckduckgo.com is often your friend.
>
>  Jordan
>
>
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