[CCWG-ACCT] A modest proposal to start the week

[Alan Greenberg]

I support Avri.

First, suing ICANN is NOT the only power they have. That is a last 
resort power that we are told will never (well nearly never) be 
exercised. The prime power is to challenge ICANN on its decisions and 
to ratify some of those decisions. As described in the community 
mechanisms in the CCWG Draft Proposal.

We are putting these mechanisms in place because we have a lack of 
trust in the good judgement of the Board. But we are will now have an 
AC/So either appoint individuals, or appoint individuals to a UA. And 
since that AC/SO has no legal status, it cannot "enforce" that its 
representatives are truly following their directives. But we will 
trust them because they are part of our community. But if we appoint 
this same person to the Board, they are no longer trustworthy.

And no doubt these views are also out of order.

Alan

At 01/06/2015 10:45 AM, Avri Doria wrote:


>On 01-Jun-15 10:35, Malcolm Hutty wrote:
> > What is it you fear that these "unaccountable UA" might do?
>
>That they not be accountable to the stakeholder they are allegedly
>accountable to.
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>As has been brought up by more than one of our advisers, if they are the
>main point of ICANN accountability, it must be possible to guarantee
>their accountability as much as we need to guarantee the Board's
>accountability when it hold the token for ICANN accountability.
>
>Having been a member or observer of many of these entities I have fond
>that they are often disorganized, ruled by a few strong personalities in
>a sea of apathy, and given to making up rules on the fly when needed.
>They do not even necessarily follow the rules htey have agreed to in the
>charers, though some do, not all of them.  And for the most part, though
>they are supposed to transparent, most aren't.
>
>So what i fear is that they are accountable to none except the few
>strong personalities.
>
>So if we want to base our trust in ICANN on a membership model, we need
>to make sure it is at least as accountable as what we have now.
>
>avri
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