[CCWG-ACCT] [ccTLDcommunity] Communique - revised - any feedback by midnight Argentina time

[Drazek, Keith]

The IANA Stewardship Transition Coordinating Group (ICG) drafted its communique live and in-person during its first meeting last July. I recall because I held the pen (keyboard). It’s not that unusual.

That said, I support Jordan’s suggestion that we discuss the practice during our next full meeting of the CCWG.

Regards,
Keith



From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Carter
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 12:35 PM
To: Dr Eberhard W Lisse
Cc: List ccTLD Community; cctldworld at icann.org; directors at omadhina.net; <ccnso-members at icann.org>; CCWG Accountability
Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] [ccTLDcommunity] Communique - revised - any feedback by midnight Argentina time

Dear all

I haven't seen a communique written live in front of a meeting since a conference we ran in 2010. I suppose it does happen sometimes, but would welcome an item for our discussion at our next meeting whether we wish to adopt the same approach, or whether people are happy when such writing is required to have people draft it, and then discussion at the meetings.

Seems to me a broad based live drafting standard would considerably delay our work, but a shared understanding of what we would like to see in place could be useful.

best
Jordan


On 21 June 2015 at 12:26, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <epilisse at gmail.com<mailto:epilisse at gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear Co-Chairs

I wish to thank your collleague Leon very much for admitting in person that it was not deliberated.

el
--
Sent from Dr Lisse's iPhone 5s


On Jun 21, 2015, at 12:06, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <epilisse at gmail.com<mailto:epilisse at gmail.com>> wrote:
Reading out loud is not deliberating.

So It is correct.

el

--
Sent from Dr Lisse's iPhone 5s


On Jun 21, 2015, at 12:01, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <leonfelipe at sanchez.mx<mailto:leonfelipe at sanchez.mx>> wrote:
That is not correct. It was read out loud, circulated for feedback and then published.

Objection noted.


Best regards,


León

El 21/06/2015, a las 11:57, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <epilisse at gmail.com<mailto:epilisse at gmail.com>> escribió:

So what I hear that it was drafted by the Co-Chairs during lunch is correct. Never mind that it was not deliberated by the plenum.

Since the statement uses past tense it is at best misleading.

So, for the record, I object against the statement.

greetings, el
--
Sent from Dr Lisse's iPhone 5s


On Jun 21, 2015, at 09:46, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <leonfelipe at sanchez.mx<mailto:leonfelipe at sanchez.mx>> wrote:
Dear Eberhard,

This was drafted before the end of our working day session, read out loud to attendants and circulated for feedback.


Best regards,


León

El 21/06/2015, a las 9:29, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na<mailto:el at lisse.na>> escribió:

Dear Co-Chairs,

I have not received a substantive response to my request.

My understanding is that it was drafted before the meeting was finished, over lunch.

I demand an answer.

el
--
Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini

On Jun 19, 2015, at 23:07, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <epilisse at gmail.com<mailto:epilisse at gmail.com>> wrote:
When EXACTLY was this drafted?

el

--
Sent from Dr Lisse's iPhone 5s


On Jun 19, 2015, at 17:10, Jordan Carter <jordan at internetnz.net.nz<mailto:jordan at internetnz.net.nz>> wrote:
Hi all

Attached in doc and pdf are the updated communique - clean, and showing all the changes tracked. Mathieu finalised this.

I've also pasted the clean version below for easy reading.

Any comments or issues please to the list or the co-chairs by midnight Argentina time (around seven hours from time of sending).

cheers
Jordan

[...]
_______________________________________________
Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list
Accountability-Cross-Community at icann.org<mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community at icann.org>
https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community

_______________________________________________
Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list
Accountability-Cross-Community at icann.org<mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community at icann.org>
https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community


_______________________________________________
ccTLDcommunity mailing list
ccTLDcommunity at cctld-managers.org<mailto:ccTLDcommunity at cctld-managers.org>
http://www.lists.cctld-managers.org/mailman/listinfo/cctldcommunity

To unsubscribe please send a blank email to ccTLDcommunity-unsubscribe at lists.cctld-managers.org<mailto:ccTLDcommunity-unsubscribe at lists.cctld-managers.org>



--
Jordan Carter

Chief Executive
InternetNZ

04 495 2118 (office) | +64 21 442 649 (mob)
jordan at internetnz.net.nz<mailto:jordan at internetnz.net.nz>
Skype: jordancarter

A better world through a better Internet
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/accountability-cross-community/attachments/20150621/dbaec7bf/attachment.html>