[CCWG-ACCT] Communique - revised - any feedback by midnight Argentina time

Chris LaHatte chris.lahatte at icann.org
Mon Jun 22 12:27:31 UTC 2015


May I implore participants to continue to note the ICANN policy on polite discourse. It is important to have a strong and vigorous debate but we don't need to make personal attacks on each other. A polite note of disagreement should be sufficient, and has been frequently used. But if we start to attack individuals on list, this will distract us from the real tasks
Regards

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> On 22/06/2015, at 8:53 am, Paul Rosenzweig <paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com> wrote:
> 
> Colleagues
> 
> It seems to me worth recording, for "the record" that our colleague so
> frequently alludes to, some thoughts about the leadership of our group.
> Given the frequency and vituperative nature of the criticism emanating from
> one corner, I would not want silence in our discussions to in any way
> betoken agreement or assent.  When some future historian looks back on these
> proceedings they might mistake volume for accuracy and lack of contradiction
> for agreement.  That is most certainly not the case (at least not for me,
> and I suspect for many others).
> 
> I, for one, began this process with a modest amount of optimism that it
> could prove productive and a healthy dollop of skepticism that so unwieldy a
> process could be effectively managed.  In 35 years in government and the
> private sector I have seen any number of committees with a much narrower
> mandate and a much smaller membership flounder and fail.
> 
> We should all, therefore, reflect that our co-Chairs and rapporteurs have,
> through their efforts, managed to push us along this far and this
> effectively.  They have run an open and transparent process.  They have been
> inclusive.  They have moved the discussion along (perhaps too fast for some,
> but well within the bounds of reasonableness).  They have exhibited patience
> beyond measure (I, personally, would long ago have asked the chartering
> organization to recall its member).  And, to their very great credit, they
> have allowed the process to run without imposing their own views -- indeed,
> I would be hard pressed to state exactly what they might be -- an exercise
> in restraint that deserves praise.  
> 
> In short, by any objective measure our co-Chairs have done a fine job.  It
> has not been perfect, to be sure, but it has met every objective test of
> reasonableness that one can devise.  I reject utterly any suggestion of
> bias, animus, or dishonesty.  Those  are baseless puerile allegations that
> reflect more on the nature of the accuser, whose views will, I am sure, be
> seen in retrospect as baseless.  
> 
> Regards
> Paul
> 
> Paul Rosenzweig
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Malcolm Hutty [mailto:malcolm at linx.net] 
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 4:59 PM
> To: Dr Eberhard W Lisse; León Felipe Sánchez Ambía
> Cc: List ccTLD Community; CCWG Accountability; Lisse Eberhard;
> <ccnso-members at icann.org>; cctldworld at icann.org
> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Communique - revised - any feedback by midnight
> Argentina time
> 
>> On 21/06/2015 21:26, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
>> Dear Co-Chairs,
>> 
>> Your Co-Chair is being quite economical with the truth.
> 
> Dear Dr Lisse,
> 
> I am getting quite tired of the repeated disrespect you are showing to our
> colleagues, and your unfair attempts to impugne their integrity.
> 
> The communique was proposed to the meeting and read out. Participants were
> invited to comment; there being no substantive comments, the communique was
> accepted. I don't know what more deliberation you could want. The handling
> was entirely proper and normal.
> 
> Your attacks on León are without a shred of justification, as were your
> previous attacks on our co-chairs. He deserves your apology, as do they; if
> you choose to withhold it, that reflects upon you, not on them.
> 
> Perhaps you might wish to reflect on how counter-productive your approach is
> to any effort to persuade colleagues to give their attention to your
> interventions, and the disservice you are doing your own cause thereby.
> 
> I am a proud proponent of the multistakeholder model. Many on this list are
> new to this model, and unused to the opportunity openness to all does give
> to those who wish to be rude and disruptive. I am embarrassed to think how
> they must feel when they see this spat, and the other occasions you have
> mistreated colleagues here.
> 
> I can only hope that our new colleagues can look past the behaviour of one
> individual and recognise the deep well of cooperation and goodwill that
> characterises the rest of our work. I hope they can still find it in
> themselves to agree with me that the great achievement of building a broad
> base of consensus in such a challenging area is worth even the inconvenience
> of suffering such rudeness.
> 
> I am sorry I have had to be so blunt, but remaining silent felt too much
> like complicity in an injustice.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Malcolm Hutty.
> 
> 
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