[CCWG-ACCT] Communique - revised - any feedback by midnight Argentina time

[Greg Shatan]

+1 to Paul and to our esteemed Ombudsman.

Greg Shatan

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Chris LaHatte <chris.lahatte at icann.org>
wrote:

> May I implore participants to continue to note the ICANN policy on polite
> discourse. It is important to have a strong and vigorous debate but we
> don't need to make personal attacks on each other. A polite note of
> disagreement should be sufficient, and has been frequently used. But if we
> start to attack individuals on list, this will distract us from the real
> tasks
> Regards
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 22/06/2015, at 8:53 am, Paul Rosenzweig <
> paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com> wrote:
> >
> > Colleagues
> >
> > It seems to me worth recording, for "the record" that our colleague so
> > frequently alludes to, some thoughts about the leadership of our group.
> > Given the frequency and vituperative nature of the criticism emanating
> from
> > one corner, I would not want silence in our discussions to in any way
> > betoken agreement or assent.  When some future historian looks back on
> these
> > proceedings they might mistake volume for accuracy and lack of
> contradiction
> > for agreement.  That is most certainly not the case (at least not for me,
> > and I suspect for many others).
> >
> > I, for one, began this process with a modest amount of optimism that it
> > could prove productive and a healthy dollop of skepticism that so
> unwieldy a
> > process could be effectively managed.  In 35 years in government and the
> > private sector I have seen any number of committees with a much narrower
> > mandate and a much smaller membership flounder and fail.
> >
> > We should all, therefore, reflect that our co-Chairs and rapporteurs
> have,
> > through their efforts, managed to push us along this far and this
> > effectively.  They have run an open and transparent process.  They have
> been
> > inclusive.  They have moved the discussion along (perhaps too fast for
> some,
> > but well within the bounds of reasonableness).  They have exhibited
> patience
> > beyond measure (I, personally, would long ago have asked the chartering
> > organization to recall its member).  And, to their very great credit,
> they
> > have allowed the process to run without imposing their own views --
> indeed,
> > I would be hard pressed to state exactly what they might be -- an
> exercise
> > in restraint that deserves praise.
> >
> > In short, by any objective measure our co-Chairs have done a fine job.
> It
> > has not been perfect, to be sure, but it has met every objective test of
> > reasonableness that one can devise.  I reject utterly any suggestion of
> > bias, animus, or dishonesty.  Those  are baseless puerile allegations
> that
> > reflect more on the nature of the accuser, whose views will, I am sure,
> be
> > seen in retrospect as baseless.
> >
> > Regards
> > Paul
> >
> > Paul Rosenzweig
> > paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com
> > O: +1 (202) 547-0660
> > M: +1 (202) 329-9650
> > VOIP: +1 (202) 738-1739
> > Skype: paul.rosenzweig1066
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Malcolm Hutty [mailto:malcolm at linx.net]
> > Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 4:59 PM
> > To: Dr Eberhard W Lisse; León Felipe Sánchez Ambía
> > Cc: List ccTLD Community; CCWG Accountability; Lisse Eberhard;
> > <ccnso-members at icann.org>; cctldworld at icann.org
> > Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Communique - revised - any feedback by midnight
> > Argentina time
> >
> >> On 21/06/2015 21:26, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> >> Dear Co-Chairs,
> >>
> >> Your Co-Chair is being quite economical with the truth.
> >
> > Dear Dr Lisse,
> >
> > I am getting quite tired of the repeated disrespect you are showing to
> our
> > colleagues, and your unfair attempts to impugne their integrity.
> >
> > The communique was proposed to the meeting and read out. Participants
> were
> > invited to comment; there being no substantive comments, the communique
> was
> > accepted. I don't know what more deliberation you could want. The
> handling
> > was entirely proper and normal.
> >
> > Your attacks on León are without a shred of justification, as were your
> > previous attacks on our co-chairs. He deserves your apology, as do they;
> if
> > you choose to withhold it, that reflects upon you, not on them.
> >
> > Perhaps you might wish to reflect on how counter-productive your
> approach is
> > to any effort to persuade colleagues to give their attention to your
> > interventions, and the disservice you are doing your own cause thereby.
> >
> > I am a proud proponent of the multistakeholder model. Many on this list
> are
> > new to this model, and unused to the opportunity openness to all does
> give
> > to those who wish to be rude and disruptive. I am embarrassed to think
> how
> > they must feel when they see this spat, and the other occasions you have
> > mistreated colleagues here.
> >
> > I can only hope that our new colleagues can look past the behaviour of
> one
> > individual and recognise the deep well of cooperation and goodwill that
> > characterises the rest of our work. I hope they can still find it in
> > themselves to agree with me that the great achievement of building a
> broad
> > base of consensus in such a challenging area is worth even the
> inconvenience
> > of suffering such rudeness.
> >
> > I am sorry I have had to be so blunt, but remaining silent felt too much
> > like complicity in an injustice.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Malcolm Hutty.
> >
> >
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