[CCWG-ACCT] AOC type Reviews and Fundamental bylaws.

[Roelof Meijer]

I agree with Malcolm, we should be very selective and quite restrained
when labelling bylaw articles as ³fundamental"

Cheers,

Roelof




On 30-04-15 18:40, "Malcolm Hutty" <malcolm at linx.net> wrote:

>
>On 30/04/2015 17:25, Robin Gross wrote:
>> This approach would also help to demonstrate to the larger
>> community that ICANN does believe accountability and transparency
>> to be among its most fundamental obligations in the course of its
>> stewardship.  It seems that this is a necessary commitment to have
>> in place for all of ICANN's other undertakings to have legitimacy
>> and to give us confidence and the tools we need to fix further
>> problems as they arise.
>
>Robin,
>
>"Fundamental" in this context doesn't mean "important", it means
>"immutable" - or at least "hard to change".
>
>I completely agree with the sentiment, but that is dealt with in the
>core values, which are held as "fundamental". Are you really sure you
>want to make the frequency of ATRT Reviews, or what they are called
>upon to look into, so deeply entrenched? Because that is the kind of
>thing covered here.
>
>Malcolm.
>
>> Thanks, Robin
>> 
>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 8:01 AM, Avri Doria wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> On 30-Apr-15 09:32, Malcolm Hutty wrote:
>>>> Tagging too much as fundamental, and then needing to change it
>>>> rapidly and frequently, would devalue the protection for those
>>>> things for which there is no foreseeable reason to change them,
>>>> and every reason to wish them to be deeply entrenched.
>>> 
>>> While the other reviews may be somewhat ephemeral and variable,
>>> the ATRT review should be very solid and tough to change, hence
>>> my recommendation that it, and no longer all the other imported
>>> AOC be fundamental.  Originally I was proposing all AOC reviews
>>> should be.  I could tell that did not have enough support and am
>>> suggesting that at least the ATRT get that status as it is
>>> fundamental to ongoing and sustainable accountability and
>>> transparency.
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> 
>>> avri
>
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