[CCWG-ACCT] Edits due in 3h: V10 DRAFT for your review by 2 May at 01:00 UTC

Kavouss Arasteh kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com
Sat May 2 16:15:56 UTC 2015


Dear Avri,
YES and Yes . I fully agree with what you said we just need to mention
everywhere referenced " in a multistakeholder button up approach without
any refernce to private or public..We are emerging more and more and should
refrain to motivate any division or polarisation.
Regards
Kavouss

2015-05-02 17:28 GMT+02:00 Avri Doria <avri at acm.org>:

>  Hi,
>
> I too agree that the report should take a multistakeholder view that
> treats all ICANN stakeholders equally.
>
> I do not think that it is necessary that that all stakeholders decide to
> do things in the same manner, but that the various options should be open
> to all stakeholders on an overall equal footing. I do not believe that all
> stakeholders have the same roles and responsibilities in each phase of
> every operation.  But in the overall process there needs to be a balanced
> and equal footing.  This is a goal in my view in all Internet Governance
> (IG) mechanisms.  ICANN is an organization that is closer to doing this in
> a open and  equal footing manner than most organizations in IG.  I think
> that it is is important in this Accountabilty work to be clear about that
> continuing goal.
>
> I do not, however, wish to accidentally fall into the pattern where there
> is parity between 2 stakeholder grouping: private and public. Rather we
> need the full multistakeholder mix.  I think we should mention neither
> public nor private and just mention the diversity of stakeholder groups
> involved in ICANN.  The word multistakeholder should be sufficient.
>
> avri
>
>
> On 02-May-15 10:06, Olga Cavalli wrote:
>
> Dear all,
> thanks for the draft.
> I support Kavouss comments and suggested edits.
> Regards
> Olga
>
> 2015-05-02 4:35 GMT-03:00 Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>:
>
>>  IMPORTANT AND URGENT
>>
>> Dear co-chairs,
>>
>> Thank you very much for your enormous and tireless efforts to put this
>> doc. for final comments
>>
>> I have had many comments but I could not finish the edits till now.
>>
>> I therefore do not wish to delay the work.
>>
>> However, I have one VERY IMPORTANT edit that I raised it in my last
>> e-mail.
>>
>> That edit is relating to a reference to ICANN or Internet Process as
>> being «private led  multistakeholder”  organization or process.
>>
>> This is a mistake. a big mistake. There is no such preference to one
>> category of stakeholder over other categories of stakeholder (private or
>> public) .
>>
>> I raised this matter at one of our call and asked for deletion of that
>> term.
>>
>> All stakeholder, irrespective being private, public, and etc. *SHALL * be
>> treated equally. This issue was raised at various occasions by NTIA
>> indicating / emphasizing that no single category of the stakeholder should
>> benefit from preference over other categories of stakeholders .This term
>> was used at very early stage of the introduction of the ICANN into the
>> business. Over the time when we discussed that the process should be
>> inclusive, democratic, then it was agreed by everybody that no category of
>> the stakeholder should have any preference, what so ever, or should have
>>   a preferred treatment over other categories of the stakeholders.
>>
>> In view of the above, I urge you to  kindly correct such a big mistake
>> which if it is not corrected would put us in a very delicate situation that
>> we did not respect impartiality and neutrality in treating  various
>> categories of the stakeholders.
>>
>> There are 4 or 5 times that such a reference to »private led
>> multistakeholder  are referred to in the doc.
>>
>> Pls kindly make a simple «find" check and delete all that.  Term in
>> other part of doc. whenever, so as reference is maded to multistakeholder
>> there is no such an incorrect and discriminative preference.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Kavouss
>>
>> 2015-05-02 9:01 GMT+02:00 Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>:
>>
>>>  Dear All,
>>> I have not finish edits .I am on page 50. However, in view of time time
>>> constrain, I have an important edit that is attached.
>>> The same edit should be carried forward elsewhere  throughout the entire
>>> document . please then search for " private sector led " and DELETE THAT .
>>> I mentioned in one of the call .See Attached doc.
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>>  2015-05-02 3:34 GMT+02:00 Samantha Eisner <Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>:
>>>
>>>>   Thanks Grace.
>>>>
>>>>  Dear CCWG,
>>>> Attached please find some proposed edits for consideration.
>>>>
>>>>  Best,
>>>>
>>>>  Sam
>>>>
>>>>   From: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad at icann.org>
>>>> Date: Friday, May 1, 2015 at 3:52 PM
>>>> To: Accountability Cross Community <
>>>> accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
>>>> Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] Edits due in 3h: V10 DRAFT for your review by 2
>>>> May at 01:00 UTC
>>>>
>>>>   Hi all,
>>>> Just a reminder than edits, comments are due in approximately 3h. Thank
>>>> you to those who sent edits earlier today.  If you must send late edits,
>>>> please send a note to the Chairs* with staff in copy* to give us
>>>> notice that your comments will be delayed. Best to stick to the deadline,
>>>> but we know everyone is working hard to get this draft report ready, and
>>>> we’d rather get your comments than not at all.
>>>> Have a good weekend,
>>>> Grace
>>>>
>>>>   From: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad at icann.org>
>>>> Date: Friday, May 1, 2015 at 11:19 AM
>>>> To: Accountability Cross Community <
>>>> accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: V10 DRAFT for your review by 2 May at 01:00 UTC
>>>>
>>>>   Dear all,
>>>>
>>>>  We sent the V10 draft report earlier today (in UTC) but have been
>>>> notified that, in some cases, the files are too large to download from the
>>>> email attachments. As a reminder, the draft (redline and clean versions)
>>>> are posted on the Wiki:
>>>> https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Draft+Report.
>>>>
>>>>  Looking forward to receiving your comments and edits,
>>>> Grace
>>>>
>>>>   From: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad at icann.org>
>>>> Date: Thursday, April 30, 2015 at 9:22 PM
>>>> To: Accountability Cross Community <
>>>> accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
>>>> Subject: V10 DRAFT for your review by 2 May at 01:00 UTC
>>>>
>>>>   Dear all,
>>>>
>>>>  Here attached is the CCWG-Accountability Draft Report V10. I have
>>>> attached a redline and a clean version (in Word and PDF).
>>>>
>>>>  Version 10 incorporates the following:
>>>>
>>>>    - Changes from the CCWG-Accountability call on Thursday 30 April at
>>>>    05:00 UTC
>>>>    - Edits from legal counsel (Sidley and Adler)
>>>>    - Approval from the CWG-Stewardship Chairs/Client Committee
>>>>    regarding incorporation of CWG-Stewardship recommendations
>>>>    - Edits from Chairs and Rapporteurs
>>>>
>>>>  Please send your edits, comments, etc to the mailing list by*Saturday
>>>> 2 May 01:00 UTC* (24h from now). Staff will incorporate the edits over
>>>> the weekend so as to release a final version for Public Comment on Monday,
>>>> 4 May. *If possible, edits are appreciate in track changes in the
>>>> clean version so that they are clearly marked and visible. *There will
>>>> be professional formatting and copyediting done before publication, so we
>>>> suggest that your time my be best spent by focusing on the
>>>> substance-related edits.
>>>>
>>>>  Also, please remember to submit your feedback regarding the XPlane
>>>> graphics by Saturday as well. Adam will send a reminder re: XPlane.
>>>>
>>>>  Almost there!
>>>> — Grace
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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